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Lit New Hardcovers Out of Print, Ridiculously Expensive!

Discussion in 'Literature' started by zchmrkenhoff, Mar 9, 2017.

  1. zchmrkenhoff

    zchmrkenhoff Jedi Padawan

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    I love hardback books. I love how they feel, I love how they look on my shelf, and I love how the size of it brings out the art on the dust cover. In general, hardbacks are my favorite.

    What a displeasure then to see that newer books like Lords of the Sith cannot be obtained in hardback form for less than $100! I bought the paperback just to read it, and this is definitely one that I'm going to want to have in hardcover eventually. Will they print any more copies of this in hardback? Is there any way that I can tell Del Rey to do this?
     
  2. Taalcon

    Taalcon Force Ghost star 4

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    The worst part is, I bought it, A New Dawn, and Heir to the Jedi in HC when they first came out, and sold them used very cheap.
     
  3. Ghost

    Ghost Chosen One star 7

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    Ironically, they used to have the problem of too many hardcover books, even for 200-page novels that they would sell at $40 simply because it's HC.
     
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  4. bsmith7174

    bsmith7174 Jedi Knight star 3

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    I kind of doubt they would reprint hardcovers. I'm so glad I started getting them from the beginning. They all look so nice lined up. [​IMG]


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  5. Jeff_Ferguson

    Jeff_Ferguson Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    What the... ? Have there been any paperbacks since the re-launch?
     
  6. Taalcon

    Taalcon Force Ghost star 4

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    Yeah, most came out in paperback with additional short stories packed in. Tarkin and A New Dawn were bound together with three original short stories. All paperbacks are very available. Get the HC while you can, though!
     
  7. Jeff_Ferguson

    Jeff_Ferguson Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I mean straight-to-paperback, no hardcover release. Have there been any?
     
  8. Taalcon

    Taalcon Force Ghost star 4

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    No, not from Del Rey. Middle Grade books through Disney Press like Servants of the Empire were, though.
     
  9. DarthInternous

    DarthInternous Del Rey Associate Editor star 2 VIP

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    Hello - Del Rey person here,

    We are aware that some of our books have become very expensive on the secondary market after going out of print in hardcover. Those titles are unlikely to see another hardcover reprint. Actually - absent some anniversary or special circumstance - it is rare for any book (SW or otherwise) to return to press in a format that has gone out of print...

    Hardcovers generally go out of print around the time of the paperback release. That is not a guarantee, but if you're keen on collecting it's good to use as a time marker. Paperbacks generally release 9 months after the hardcover. Sometimes a little less, sometimes a little more. It varies.

    The best suggestion I can give is to avoid paying those high prices and search in used book stores locally or in areas you travel to. I've found several hardcovers of titles like Tarkin and A New Dawn in used book stores that were very reasonably priced. You might even band together with other book hunters to try and track these down. If in my travels I come across any, I'll be sure to let people know where to find them, or perhaps even buy a few up to give away (I visit A LOT of used/rare book shops each year).
     
  10. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 7

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    Some sellers on Amazon take the piss.

    Hardbacks mostly go down in price, not up. Consider buying from abroad and just pay the shipping, can be less than you might expect.
     
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  11. KikReask

    KikReask Jedi Padawan star 1

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    I would have liked to start collecting all of the new canon books in hardcover format but sometimes I prefer paperback if it's a resonably sized book and not a tiny book like the Legends reprints where I have to be really careful not to damage the spines. Sometimes Paperback is less of a hassle for me if I don't have space. I'll tell you what is too much when it comes to Amazon and Ebay buyers, Dark Horse paperback comics. Some of the later stories I can still get for cheap at least for a little while but goddamn, Dawn of the Jedi: Force Storm is ridiculous with prices going from £200 to £500. I also regret not getting Son of Dathomir when it was only £15. I'll get the Legends reprints Marvel is putting out but I always preferred having the Dark Horse logo on my shelf personally. :p
     
  12. Grey1

    Grey1 Host: 181st Imperial Discussion Group star 4 VIP

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    Same with music; I've been checking some of those "limited bonus" editions that I ignored years ago, and the best bargain I saw was one that's a few € on eBay listed for €600 on Amazon. I think most of it comes down to incompetence based on the fact that they have to deal with too many products.
     
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  13. LAJ_FETT

    LAJ_FETT Tech Admin and Collecting/Lucasfilm Ltd Mod star 9 Staff Member Administrator

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    You could also try a specialist SF bookstore. I know Forbidden Planet in London has a SW section and I usually see a mix of HC and PB books on the shelves when I'm there.
     
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  14. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 7

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    One thing I'd flag is books and comic trades tend to operate under different rules, so don't assume what's true for one medium applies to the other.
     
  15. Endol

    Endol Jedi Knight star 3

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    You shouldn't feel aggrieved about Son of Dathomir. As it is canon, it wont be getting a Legends re-print, just a re-print with Marvel on it. Whether the DH version will retain it's value then is anyone's guess.

    And yes I would agree with LAJ Fett - specialist shops like Forbidden Planet tend to go further back hardcover wise than the mainstream shops. In fact when i went last week there were selling off Razors Edge HC for £1.99!!!
     
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  16. DarthKuriboh

    DarthKuriboh Jedi Master star 3

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    I got this pack on kindle for my paperwhite. So awesome!
     
  17. Endol

    Endol Jedi Knight star 3

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    The normal pattern as described is that the paperback comes bundled with an Insider short story. So Lords of the Sith came with Orientation, TFA came with Bait (and the perfect weapon). etc. However that's not always guaranteed even in the tie in short story novels. Aftermath paperback didn't come with Blade Squadron Zero Hour.
     
  18. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Force Ghost star 7

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    Isn't there supposed to be a Blade Squadron Anthology collection thing coming out? Could have sworn anyway.
     
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  19. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 7

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    Hey, go here:

    https://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/SearchResults?bi=h&sortby=17&tn=star+wars+lords+of+the+sith

    You might have to pay higher shipping but given the other offers going, that might be the best deal you're going to get.
     
  20. LAJ_FETT

    LAJ_FETT Tech Admin and Collecting/Lucasfilm Ltd Mod star 9 Staff Member Administrator

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    Abebooks is good for stuff like this, as can be Powells Books. (The latter are US-based). I've used both in the past. Abebooks is owned by Amazon, I believe.
     
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  21. vong333

    vong333 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    bsmith-I love the hardback picture.

    I usually collect the hardcovers the day it comes out. I've done that with the legends stuff before. If they add special stories in the paperbacks then I collect them too. The hardcovers are so nice. The name of the game is if you want to get the hardcovers, plan for when the books come out and then buy them. If you buy them from amazon, they usually go down in price by the time of release.
     
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  22. revan772

    revan772 Jedi Knight star 3

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    Really glad I started collecting all the hardcovers of these on day one. My Legends bookshelf looks so silly with the mix of paperback and hardback, especially with books in the same series but different formats. :p
     
  23. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 7

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    This is indeed the golden rule of buying hardbacks.
     
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  24. Endol

    Endol Jedi Knight star 3

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    Looking at that hardcover collection from the US, I find it weird that the font used for the word, 'aftermath' in the UK edition of the first book, differs on its spine.

    Front cover of the UK aftermath novel = normal aftermath font, but on the same book on its spine it uses a different one, weird
     
  25. EmperorHorus

    EmperorHorus Jedi Knight star 3

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    Funny you should say that, as I've got a copy of pretty much every hardcover SW novel that was ever released that I've never really used. Probably read each one once but they'd be in mint condition.

    Reason being that I hate hardcovers. I much prefer the smaller paperbacks (which they don't even seem to be releasing the new canon novels in at all, like wtf?) and I always bought the paperbacks as soon as they came out to keep rereading etc. The only I reason I bought the hardcovers was because I couldn't wait 6 months just to read the book and now they just sit around and do nothing.

    So yeah I've got at least 2 copies of most SW books

    Btw anyone know what the deal is with the new canon paperback formats? Like why don't they release SW books in the smaller, more compact paperback versions anymore? It's really annoying.