Lit New Hardcovers Out of Print, Ridiculously Expensive!

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  1. revan772 Jedi Knight

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    @EmperorHorus they do release paper backs. They just come out a few months later. They currently have several out.
  2. JABoomer Jedi Master

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    Me too, I never had the money for hardcovers when I was in grade school, and now my OCD prevents me from having various formats/sizes of SW novels. Plus hardbacks are a pain to read lying in bed.

    They do, see below


    The Del Rey books all get paperback releases, the next one is Aftermath: Life Debt at the end of the month. The Disney published young adult novels do not seem to get paperback releases, at least not in North America.
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  3. jSarek VIP

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    He's not talking about paperback releases in general. He's talking about the smaller paperback format that the novels used to come in. Canon releases are in premium paperback format.
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  4. Manuel Bothans Jedi Padawan

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    Those premium paperbacks are the only way I can read paperbacks these days. My eyes aren't what they used to be, so if what I want to read is in the smaller, compact paperbacks I'll just get it on my Kindle.
  5. ATimson Jedi Master

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    That extra 25% profit per copy is hard to pass up for publishers.
  6. Giovs Jedi Knight

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    I had the same problem a few years ago when I was hunting for hardcovers from the old bantam era books.
    Fortunately I've been keeping up with the new Canon hardcovers from the start, the only ones I don't have are Dark Disciple and the Rogue One novel, not sure if I'll buy them eventually or not. I'm also getting the Marvel hardcovers, those things can get really expensive and hard to find when they're out of print.

    Related to this, a few days ago I ordered an out of print hardcover from a non star wars related 2005 book and managed to find a new copy for 10$, sometimes you just get lucky.
  7. EmperorHorus Jedi Knight

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    No the paperbacks they release now are a different size, larger than the classic "106 x 170" (I think) paperbacks that they used to have. I know I'm really OCD but the larger paperbacks they have now are just as annoying to read to me as the hardcovers.

    I would genuinely be willing to pay way more for a small, compact paperback than a hardcover if it was on the market.
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  8. JABoomer Jedi Master

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    Yes, they are tall and skinny, I agree they're not enjoyable to hold. And they are an inch higher on my bookshelf then 95% of Legends paperbacks.
  9. The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth

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    Hmm, gonna have to catch up on a few hardbacks before they get too pricey.

    EDIT- Crap, too late- Life Debt is already up to 75 on Amazon, yeesh.

    EDIT 2- But B&N still has it for normal price. Phew.
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  10. SheaHublin Jedi Master

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    Hello, Del Rey person- old EU fan here!

    Thanks for posting this, and I'd like to ask if there's any chance of there being reprints of various EU/ "Legends" books being re-released in hardcover format, even if they have to have that awful yellow Legends banner on them. I would instantly buy hardcover rereleases of books that never got proper hardcover releases, in particular the X-Wing series, Ruins of Dantooine, The Crosscurrent Duology, and various anthologies. I am not alone in this, and there is an untapped market for such books here and elsewhere in collector and fan circles. It is good that Del Rey is keeping the classic EU novels in print (even with that "Legends" banner) and please do consider releasing new hardcover versions. You can be assured that they'll sell :)
  11. DarthInternous Del Rey Assistant Editor

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    @SheaHublin There's virtually no chance of something like that happening. The production and distribution issues alone would make it a none starter.
  12. Jeff_Ferguson Jedi Grand Master

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    @DarthInternous Thanks for all the info. Any chance of e-book releases for Legends novellas like Crisis of Faith or Emissary of the Void? A few of the older novellas, like Fool's Bargain and Darth Maul: Saboteur, seem to have Kindle editions available, but I'd love to be able to purchase Crisis of Faith by itself without picking up the paperback of Choices of One, or Emissary of the Void without using eBay to track down six different old issues of the Insider and Gamer mags. The NJO is still really popular around these parts, but I'd be surprised if more than a handful of us have ever read Emissary.
  13. The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth

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    But that's the fun part! :D
  14. DarthInternous Del Rey Assistant Editor

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    @Jeff_Ferguson for similar reasons that I mentioned above this is also unlikely to happen. Especially if they haven't been published separately before.
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  15. Jedi Ben Chosen One

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    I get distribution and production where printed copies are concerned, but how do the same issues prevent e-issuing?

    LFL own all the content, it's all already written, is that hard to make available digitally? Particularly in today's world where that seems to be where everything is going.
  16. DarthInternous Del Rey Assistant Editor

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    Similar issues - perhaps not quite exactly the same ones.
  17. Jedi Ben Chosen One

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    Hmm, that's a shame.
  18. mbruno Jedi Knight

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    Wait, Crisis of Faith was reprinted in the paperback of Choices of One? Really?
  19. Jeff_Ferguson Jedi Grand Master

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    @mbruno No that's my mistake --- it was actually the 20th anniversary Heir, wasn't it?

    Also, I purchased Saboteur on my Kindle the other day and finally read it, sixteen years after its release. Can't believe I never checked it out --- I guess it was 'cause for years I held onto the belief that I would one day buy and read Shadow Hunter, which includes Saboteur in the paperback.
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  20. Darth_Henning Jedi Master

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    A lot of books are switching to the "Premium Paperback" size the last few years.

    The claim is its easier to hold and read, which I have never seen anything to support.

    Really? As far as I'm concerned, its the fact they can charge 2-4 dollars more for each book. Its all about profit.

    For Star Wars I think there's a supplementary reason. The different paperback sizes distinguish the Legends books (Mass Market) from Canon (Premium) even without the banner. (And there's the psychological element that the canon books are 'bigger')
  21. ATimson Jedi Master

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    Books have been "stuck" at $7.99 for a very long time. Prices were past due to go up anyways - you just also get the annoying format shift too.
  22. Darth_Henning Jedi Master

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    As a Canadian, in the 90s, it was $8.99 for a mass market paperback, now its generally $11.99-$12.99, and a premium up to about $14.99, so prices have consistently increased here in the same format size. I'm surprised to hear that wasn't the case in the USA.
  23. nom_anor_no_more Jedi Master

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    I've recently discovered some of the aftermarket prices for early new canon books, and holy-moses, I was shocked (some of the comics too, lordy!)

    I am damned glad I buy this stuff day-and-date

    Does anyone else display their books sans dust jackets? I think they look fantastic this way (but I do go back and forth.)

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  24. Endol Jedi Knight

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    @nom_anor_no_more why do I see legends material cluttering up your canon collection?!!!

    On a different note, it's interesting to see how del Rey books under the dust jacket. The century ones in the UK are all the same , just black with gold embossed writing.
  25. Taalcon Force Ghost

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    Seeing this makes me wish I hadn't gotten rid of my ANH, HTTJ, TARKIN, LotS, TPM, AotC, and RotS hardcovers in a shelf-space purge :_|
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