New Policy Discussion - **NO** Politics (& maybe Religion) in Sigs

Discussion in 'Communications' started by MrEmh, Aug 11, 2002.

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  1. MrEmh Jedi Knight

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    May 14, 1999
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    I have gotten upset at signatures before. Insane Anakin called me the Anti-Christ in his sig and for his refusal to change it, I banned him. Then there was the small tale comment in German...personally, I think it was a decidedly odd sexual innuendo, but on the advice of others, I did nothing. It was changed shortly thereafter. Those were sigs that were attacking one person, and rightly they were dealt with.

    However, what we have here is an idea that some can express a belief about themselves (see the recent examples of "I am..." signatures) and be banned or warned for it. I am glad an idea as idiotic as that is being overturned and actually discussed for once.
  2. AmazingB Manager Emeritus

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    "I have gotten upset at signatures before. Insane Anakin called me the Anti-Christ in his sig and for his refusal to change it, I banned him."

    Yeah, but calling you the Anti-Christ is flaming, as far as I can tell.

    But if I were to get all bent out of shape over your sig as it is now, I'd like to think someone would beat me over the head with some sort of mallet and tell me to take a step back into reality, rather than you having to change it.

    Amazing.
  3. MrEmh Jedi Knight

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    Exactly. Action was taken when a sig was offensive and flaming (ie, against the ToS). That's the only time when sigs should be forceably changed.
  4. Jay Jedi Grand Master

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    Dec 1, 1998
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    I'll do that for you Amazing. ;)

    Anyway, I'll just add my voice in real quick and say that I wish this had been discussed in the AC first, but now that its done, we can't change the past.
  5. Spike_Spiegal Jedi Youngling

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    Mar 11, 2002
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    Right. The rules already in effect were enough to cover issues involving sigs.

    If this policy is accepted it will set a horrible precedent.

    Not too mention the near impossibility of enforcing such a rule.
  6. Obi Anne FF admin Celebrations, Europe

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    I just don't want to hide the fact that I was one of the mods supporting the rule. From my point of view politics belong in the senate and if we want to have an unpolitical JC we shouldn't put political statements in sigs either.

    Just so you know who one of the mods was. :)
  7. farraday Jedi Grand Master

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    Jan 27, 2000
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    Shes a witch! Burn her! ;)

    Thank you for your honesty Obi Anne. It takes integrity to admit you backed an unpopular decision and hopefully people will respect you for that even if they disagree with your position.
  8. Spike_Spiegal Jedi Youngling

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    I'm glad you've come forward with your feelings and decision, even though I seriously disagree with you. :)
  9. Obi Anne FF admin Celebrations, Europe

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    Yeah, I've seen that, and I respect it. :)
  10. GriffZ Manager Emeritus

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    Hell, I suggested religous statements be included in the policy as well.

  11. Darth_AYBABTU Force Ghost

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    Mar 8, 2001
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    Griffz is a heretic, and should be burned at the stake immediately.

    AYBABTU?

  12. Spike_Spiegal Jedi Youngling

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    As much as I may hate to say it...

    I disagree with GriffZ on this one.

  13. farraday Jedi Grand Master

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    I feel Griff is trying to cash in on the integrity angle and demand he be beaten with some sort of dooknob filled burlap sack.

    ;)
  14. GriffZ Manager Emeritus

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    May 27, 2001
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    Go ahead. Unlike certain people, I don't get too worked up when I disagree with someone. [face_plain]

    Honestly, I actually don't care; it could go either way and I wouldn't give a damn. I came to these boards to discuss Star Wars. Now I come here to moderate, talk with some people, and -- gasp! -- discuss Star Wars.

    Being unable to express my political views in my signature does not affect my enjoyment of this place one bit.

  15. DarthJurist Admin Emeritus

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    Dec 10, 2000
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    I'm glad that this is not as final as it appeared last night.

    Waits patiently for resolution...
  16. KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus

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    Nov 6, 2001
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    Tell people they cannot do or say something, and they will care where they did not care before.

    People want to be able to say or do reasonable things, even if they don't actually do it often.

  17. GIMER Manager Emeritus

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    Nov 15, 2000
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    by the way MrEmh... you may want to change your sig to the correct spelling of Banned.

    I'm not sure how the mods would make you baned. That means "to kill especially with poison". Did they threaten you with arsenic? ;)
  18. MrEmh Jedi Knight

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    May 14, 1999
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    I'm paying homage to myself. Leave me alone! :p
  19. Spike_Spiegal Jedi Youngling

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    :eek: Shameless selfpromotion! :p


    I hope that [face_plain] isn't directed at me. :( :_|





  20. Bail_Movement Jedi Youngling

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    Jun 1, 2002
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    I think Darth Vader will kick butt in episode III.
  21. GriffZ Manager Emeritus

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    Quiet, Bail. Can't you see we're having a mature, intelligent, and productive discussion here?

  22. MrEmh Jedi Knight

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    No need to lie to the boy, Griff. ;)
  23. Sar-Tamber-lac Force Ghost

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    Wow...I can't believe this would actually be considered and gone through!! I've been reading a few posts, and they have said that this is a Star Wars board...yet, when someone brings up some of the dumb topics that are made in the JC Community, it's "Oh, well, that's for everyday things...it doesn't have to be Star Wars related..." When did that change? I thought sigs were a great thing to set us all apart as individuals, be it politically or religously. If someone wants to flame someone on their sig, then take care of that person...I see nothing wrong with having a Bible verse or political statement on a sig, unless is flaming someone, or an idea. I can't see how this would be good for the long run...I am not one to complain about what happens here...the boards are probably oen of the best things that has ever happened to me...but this I do not agree with...What about Bios? Are they next? People can take offense to those, too. True, they're not as visible as sigs...but if someone wants something to complain about, all they have to do is click on a name, and there ya go...

    I am deeply saddened and disappointed at this decision...alas, the persecution begins...
  24. KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus

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    Nov 6, 2001
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    I am deeply saddened and disappointed at this decision

    Vertical has already announced that the decision is not in effect at the moment and that it is being reconsidered.
  25. Sar-Tamber-lac Force Ghost

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    Well, that makes me a bit happier, KnightWriter...... :)

    I was just disappointed it was brought up to begin with, and it turned into a mods vs. posters war...well, semi-war, anyways...
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