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New Policy on Religious Threads

Discussion in 'Communications' started by Padme Bra, Jun 2, 2001.

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  1. JediWarrior

    JediWarrior Jedi Knight star 6

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    Make the poll!!! :D :mad: :) :(
     
  2. Wormie2

    Wormie2 Jedi Knight star 6

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    OMG! You're right, Will! I am sooo banned! How dare I say THAT word! I mean, that could just burn the eyes of every 12 year old virgin on these boards! Why, I've corrupted the youth! I should be shot! Oh the HORROR!
     
  3. Phantom Will

    Phantom Will Jedi Youngling star 4

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    No, you've got to say "god" to be banned. ;)
     
  4. JediWarrior

    JediWarrior Jedi Knight star 6

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    Will we still celebrate Christmas with SW X-Mas banners?!? Or will that 'offend' too many people. Why is it I didn't hear any admins suggesting this until AJA suggested he was feeling 'offended' by religious threads yesterday!?! ?[face_plain]

    Will we still celebrate Christmas with SW X-Mas banners?!? Or will that 'offend' too many people.
     
  5. BobTheGoon

    BobTheGoon Moderator Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Lemme ask you guys a question then:

    Should we be allowed to post hardcore pornography, as well? If not, please explain why not.
     
  6. Wormie2

    Wormie2 Jedi Knight star 6

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    Why does everything have to be black and white with you? I've said over and over again in three different threads that attacking someone for their views is unacceptable and went on to say that a better solution is for the proper moderating of these threads. If anyone flames, get rid of them. If anyone is cruel or insensative, get rid of them. Just stop the trouble makers, not the discussion. I don't know how to be any clearer than that.
     
  7. JediWarrior

    JediWarrior Jedi Knight star 6

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    Pornography is a facet that society as a whole, has condemned as demeaning and with no postitive societal effects. It is sexist, promotes violence against women, and sex alone is considered a topic of too much 'maturity' for teenagers to handle.

    Jesus was 12 when he began preaching in the temple

    Siddharta Buddha was 19 when he became an ascetic monk

    Josia was 9 when he became leader of the Jewish religion

    Joan of Arc was 17 when she was burnt at the stake for her religious views

    St Agnes was beheaded at 14 for her religious views






    History proves time and time again that teenagers (and younger) can handle religion with even the oldest of people, and can do a damn fine job of it too!
     
  8. Wormie2

    Wormie2 Jedi Knight star 6

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    When the average life span is all of 30, you tend to mature faster.

    I think the same cannot be said of today's teenager.

    All the same, I've always felt that the people I've encountered here are above average in everything. I don't mean to say that all people under 20 are too young to deal with difficult topics in a mature way. It just seems that the few I know of who complain often are relatively young.
     
  9. BobTheGoon

    BobTheGoon Moderator Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    *Hypothetically here, I have children*

    Yes, but what if I believe my child should not be exposed to religious fanatics? Would you put your child in a situation where he or she may be exposed to pornography? I don't want my children to be told what to believe, I want them to figure it out for themselves. And no one on any Star Wars messageboard is going to tell them who or what to believe. I don't care about diversity, I don't want any religous discussion outside of its pertinance to Star Wars at all. Let people make up their own minds, without your "teachings".
     
  10. JediWarrior

    JediWarrior Jedi Knight star 6

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    So why let people influence their opinions on Jar Jar, or Midichlorians, or whether GL will make episodes 7-9???
    If you want your kids to shun exposure...why bring them to a messageboard???
     
  11. Phantom Will

    Phantom Will Jedi Youngling star 4

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    For once, I agree with JediWarrior. I guess that's nothing to brag about.

    Let's make it "black and white" with no more x-mas banners.

    I wouldn't want to offend anyone.


    Edit: What the hell's up with the religion/porn thing? I don't get it.
     
  12. jedi-girl

    jedi-girl Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Religious threads have been closed and I completely support the decision. I am sure there are plenty of religious message boards you can discuss religion 24/7.
     
  13. No blasters!

    No blasters! Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    What jedi-girl said.
     
  14. No blasters!

    No blasters! Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    "Pornography is a facet that society as a whole, has condemned as demeaning and with no postitive (sic) societal effects."

    Society as a whole? Then why is it the most profitable enterprise on the internet? And is it, in fact, demeaning? Do you have any evidence to back this up? (As an avid feminist I'm curious, since in all my reading on the subject I've never seen anything quantifiable that would prove this.)

    "It is sexist,"

    Is it?

    "promotes violence against women,"

    Again, I've seen nothing that would support the conclusion that Playboy promotes violence against women.

    "and sex alone is considered a topic of too much 'maturity' for teenagers to handle."

    Teens never talk about sex? Sure my son never discusses it in front of me, but I'm not so naive as to think he doesn't discuss it with his friends.

     
  15. No blasters!

    No blasters! Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    And please. No polls. Too many socks running around...
     
  16. Crystena77

    Crystena77 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Yep I agree, No Blasters!.

    I was going to type up a long drawn out statement but simple is always best.

    What jedi-girl said.
     
  17. Darth Dark Helmet

    Darth Dark Helmet Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    "So why let people influence their opinions on Jar Jar, or Midichlorians, or whether GL will make episodes 7-9???"

    I'm hoping, that many people consider their beliefs, whatever they are, more important to themselves then what others think of Jar Jar.

    As I have said before, many people consider their religion very close to their heart and it is very important to them. And to have people come in and tell them they're going to hell because they believe or don't believe something is a thing that should never happen. And don't deny that it happens, hell, its happened in this thread. Not everyone who posts here is able to adequatly deal with that. There are some people who take this seriously.

    If you people absloutley require religion to have a serious discussion, then I think you need examine what you are beinging to the discussion. There are a couple other boards I post at where religion very rarely comes up and we have tons of serious discussions. If you absolutely have to talk about religion, go to a ezboard themed towards it, I'm sure there are many out there whop have pretty large user bases. The adminstration has said don't do it here, so find another outlet for your discussion. Its not that hard.
     
  18. No blasters!

    No blasters! Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    This almost makes me pine for the "we want stars" threads. Almost.
     
  19. Vertical

    Vertical Former Head Admin star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I love it when you pine, NB! :cool:

    Vertical
     
  20. No blasters!

    No blasters! Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    //doe eyes

    ;)
     
  21. AJA

    AJA Jedi Master star 4

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    I'd have to say on the whole it's been the anti-religion people who've started most of the trouble, but it doesn't matter. Ban it all. Lock it down. Turn out the lights and send the kids to bed.
     
  22. son_of_the_tear

    son_of_the_tear Jedi Master star 5

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    Well, I am not offended by thet banners. hell, you got Christmas stuff there, Jewish stuff there too and even Kwanza stuff there. The three major holidays of December. Oh, and the Christmas tree and red and green colors, while are colors and symbols of Christmas, are also colors of many Pagan groups. Yes, the Christmas tree believe it or not is Pagan.

    I like the banner.

    And no, there are lines and you will know them. If you want a thread about some woman complaining about Wiccan books, thats fine. Because it is an event which happend and it is not a thread which is to single out anyone, instead you are remarking.

    If some crazy old Jewish relative of mine nagged me because I dont keep Kosher, and make a thread about it, it is not bad. I am not singling out.

    Now if you YOURSELF say you agree with this lady because Wiccans are bad and will all go to hell or is against Christianity in your OWN opinion, then that is bad. Right there you have a thread that is attacking others.

    There is a line. You will know when to cross it.

    And you can say G-d all you want. You are blowing things out of porportion. Specifi threads are banned. I am sure if there is a thread and you mention G-d it will not matter.
     
  23. keokiswahine

    keokiswahine Jedi Knight star 5

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    NB, please help me find my stars. :_|
     
  24. Shi-Bandarr

    Shi-Bandarr Jedi Padawan star 4

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    "We feel that at best these threads cause animosity and divisiveness among members and at worst result in all out flame wars." ---PadmeBra

    If you want to see something that causes animosity in a thread, mention E.U. in the PSA. After a while they learn not to argue about it or forgo the threads altoghether. If it starts getting messy the mods do what they must. But yet it can't be done in JCC?

    Explain the difference please.
     
  25. Darth Dark Helmet

    Darth Dark Helmet Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    One is a series of books, the other is something that people have faith in and base their life decisions around.
     
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