Discussion in 'Denver, CO' started by nnaydolem, Oct 30, 2012.
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I totally agree, but I just don't want to hear all the poodoo that gets spewed. The prequel poodoo about did me in, and I was nowhere nearly as involved in the fandom as I am now.
I can take a critical discussion with actual points of view and support for an argument, but for the love of Yoda, I don't want to listen to people just flinging poodoo because they're unhappy.
OK, I'm strictly an OT person, so guess I'll dig out my VHS's. Flinging poodoo now at my desk so I don't have to later. LOL
Sounds like a bunch of special effects gurus on a CG team again. Ben Burtt and John Williams are kinda no brainers (they'll always be in on any SW project, it's kinda their baby). Arndt wasn't doing anything really, so Kasdan stepped in with a script he already kinda had. JJ liked it and now the two are working together. I love it when scriptwriters and directors can actually come together. Glad to see Kasdan writing it now. I'm thinking it'll have some elements of the OT (or some references to it) with lots of CG (not happy with that unless it's like Avatar). My true wish is that it's not in 3D, but since it's Disney my guess is that it will be. Too bad if it is, I'll wait for the bluray non-3D version and watch at home if it is. I hated what they tried to do with EP1 3D (even though I did watch it again on screen just to see if 3D made the story better, which it didn't at all).
I'm trying to keep an open mind, but nothing will beat the true magic of the original (when it was just called Star Wars and nothing else). ESB was fantastic (and the best of the bunch), but when the scroll first came on and the first Imperial ship came into view during the opening space battle scene the first time SW came out we were all hooked. That's the power and magic of a truly great film. Nothing in the franchise has come close.
Interesting that the Disney clip talked about the "SAGA" films and at least 3 "stand alone" films. So that means more SW for everyone! YAY! Still looking for props and character costumes so I can get a jump on making them
Was there some other news I didn't hear about? Nothing I've heard so far indicates this will be another prequel-esque CG-fest. In fact, I believe JJ actually said several months back that they want to use more practical effects than CG for this film.
As far as 3D, JJ announced that they are going to shoot on 35mm film instead of digital and won't be shooting in 3D. So if the film is in 3D, it'll be a 2D to 3D conversion like Episode I. There was some news after Star Trek Into Darkness came out that it was the studio's decision to make a 3D version because 3D films make more money at the box office. I don't think Episode VII will be in 3D if it's up to JJ, but I doubt it's going to be his call. I can almost guarantee that ILM will want to do a post-3D conversion of it to show off.
Remember that part of Lucas' reason for pushing the envelope on CG technology and using so much of it in the prequels was to show off ILM's special effects capabilities so that they'd be in higher demand for other films (watch the visual effects featurette on the TPM DVD). This is also one of the reasons why Lucasfilm had planned to do all of the 3D re-releases. ILM had developed a new method for doing 3D conversions and they wanted to show it off with the Star Wars films. If they do make a 3D version of Episode VII, I predict it may not be ready when the film is first released. But of course that'll be an excuse to re-release Episode VII in theaters several months later.
Release date = December 18, 2015!
Proving they disregard tradition.
My take from the date announcement was that they didn't want to push the film to May 2016 because it then pushes the release dates forward for the 4 or 5 other films that are currently planned. We've already been told that the spin-off films would be released in the years between the ST films, so I can see how they didn't want every other planned film to be pushed back a full year because of the first one. Hopefully this still means May releases for the other films.
I have a bad feeling about this.
It will feel very strange to have a SW film come out in Dec. I hope that Grimby is right and they go back to the traditional release date for the others.
It's probably because they have changed the production team quite a bit this past couple months, so they are getting behind already. Also, this morning it was announced that London is having a two-day casting call for Luke and Leah, so yeah, it's the Skywalker story continued (something Lucas adamently said at CVI he would never do since he was finished with the Skywalkers and wanted to move on to better things). My problem is British actors playing Amercanized roles (Mark and Carrie definitely played those roles with American accents towards an American audience). I wander who's going to play Mara Jade? You know that's the story they're going to tell! And to answer Grimby, yeah there will be CG (look at the creative team), but how much is JJ going to allow is the real question. Even the ST movies are CG'd...
Don't know where you got Luke and Leia. Looks to me like they're possibly looking for the Solo twins:
Besides Carrie Fisher had a British accent half the time in ANH. It seemed to be the preferred accent of Coruscant, too.
I'm not saying they won't use any CG. I'm just saying it probably won't be nearly as much as TPM, AOTC, and ROTS, because they've already come out and said so. As far as the creative team, I assume you're talking about this list Jonathan posted earlier:
director of photography Dan Mindel (Mission: Impossible III, Star Trek, Star Trek Into Darkness)
production designers Rick Carter (Lincoln, Avatar, Forrest Gump) and Darren Gilford (Oblivion, TRON: Legacy)
costume designer Michael Kaplan (Star Trek Into Darkness, Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol, Fight Club)
special effects supervisor Chris Corbould (Skyfall, The Dark Knight Rises, Inception)
sound designer Ben Burtt (Lincoln, Wall-E, Star Wars: Episodes I-VI)
re-recording mixer Gary Rydstrom (Jurassic Park, Saving Private Ryan, Toy Story, Mission: Impossible -Ghost Protocol)
supervising sound editor Matthew Wood (Star Trek Into Darkness, The Master, There Will Be Blood) of Skywalker Sound
visual effects supervisor Roger Guyett (Star Trek Into Darkness, Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End, Star Wars: Episode III Revenge of the Sith) of Industrial Light & Magic
producers Kathleen Kennedy, J.J. Abrams, and Bryan Burk
executive producers Tommy Harper (Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol, Jack Ryan, Star Trek Into Darkness) and Jason McGatlin (Tintin, War of the Worlds)
John Williams is returning to score Star Wars: Episode VII
The only person on this list that has anything to do with CG is the Visual Effects Supervisor. (The Special Effects Supervisor, BTW, is a completely different department. Special Effects are practical effects - things like models, pyrotechnics, props, etc.)
THE latest Rumor!
welllllllll.......as most of you know...the cast has been announced...thoughts?
I have to think Serkis is doing a CGI character.
Yay for the big three. Glad to see Anthony Daniels and Peter Mayhew are also back. No Billy Dee?
For the others...okay. I'm glad they're giving new/relatively new actors the parts as then we probably won't be tarnished by seeing them as a previous character instead of who they'll be in these new movies.
Filming begun it has....
At least there's some charity action happening.
We have a title! And it doesn't have the word "Jedi" "Strikes" or the work "of" in it. And they're going without an episode number?!? That's going to be confusing down the road...
I heard that too, but feel am really hoping that "VII" is featured in marketing as far as the movie poster is concerned, and is a definite must for the opening crawl. Think back to the original announcement, it was very specifically stated that these would 7,8,9 a continuation of the existing (Skywalker) saga. It was later announced there would be stand alone films in between to buck the numbering trend, but we the numbering has to show up in the marketing like Iron Man 2 & 3, and not like the other films in the Marvel Cinematic Universe that immediately went to alternate titles like "the winter soldier" and "age of ultron".
I've been avoiding spoilers for the most part, but I have to wonder- what's with the title? The Force Awakens .... ??... was the Force sleeping before, or something? I'm not dissing the title or anything like that. I'm just genuinely wondering what on earth it means in the grand scheme of things.
(Ok, I am being slightly snarky. But in a nice way, honest. And I am curious.)
The teaser trailer comes out this Friday at Westminster AMC 24. I think we are going to go try to see *a* movie on Saturday evening (most likely Mockingjay).