Fine, if I have "Hijacked someones thread" to talk about something else I apologize. (not that it's never been done before, or someone taking a serious question thread and filled it with nonsense "KRATOS".) I'm not trying to stir anyone's pot nor do I believe people who don't have a right to be upset about events they started are whining. When did the direction of this club officially go to that of trooping? I remember when trooping was done ever so often and then usually as part of an event everyone could take part in. Am I feeling left out in the cold. Heck yes. And I was one of those people who put forth quite a bit of time and effort into events. I helped setup, I helped work the event, and I helped take down. I just want to know when events changed. I believe people in the past have tried to put things together, both for trooping and for non trooping. I myself have attempted to put more than a few together. However, unless you are a member of a small subgroup of this club, no one cares to make an appearance. My main concern here is why aren't we doing more of what we used to do, that involved everyone instead of just the things that involve the select few? Of course the next comment from you will be, "If you don't like it you should step forward and make it better." Would that be kinda what a few of us have already tried, or the beginning of an epic fail that was Bubba taking over? And in no way is that a strike on Bubba. He worked his butt off to try to bring the club back up. He worried all the time that he wasn't doing a good enough job. Bubba's downfall was the fact that the select few didn't seem to want to back his efforts and therefore helped in the downfall. This club was great. Now it's an empty shell of what it was and should be. And the people who have the power to truly do something about it just don't care. And why should they, their interests are being catered to. And I hope what the club is doing for the telethon is really about the kids. Cause last year I thought it was about the recognition, kissing the 501st collective behind, and the after party.