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Discussion "Noooooooo!"

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Episode VII and Beyond (Archive)' started by Seagoat , May 6, 2013.

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  1. Seagoat

    Seagoat PT and Music Section Dictator star 5 Staff Member Manager

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    This line, to me at least, is just as SW iconic as the "bad feeling" line.

    It's been said at least once in every film, so I ask you, who, in your opinion, should say it in Episodes VII-IX?

     
  2. Jedirush2112

    Jedirush2112 Jedi Master star 4

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    Chewie: "Arrrrrrrgggggggggggggg!"

    Han "what do you mean no?"

    Never actually stated justimplied.
    :p

    To be honest, I hated the way that is was stated by Vader at end of ROTS. Its sounded horrible, I loved the movie until that point! Its just sounded rediculous!
    [face_bleh]

     
  3. Vthuil

    Vthuil Force Ghost star 5

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    Can't say who (if anyone) will say it on the screen, but I know I'll be saying it in the theater if anyone does.

    Seriously, this might just be the most-parodied trope that movies still think can be used seriously. Gimme a break.
     
  4. Seagoat

    Seagoat PT and Music Section Dictator star 5 Staff Member Manager

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    Well, what would you say if you'd just found out that YOU yourself had destroyed what you'd sacrificed all else for? Vader had given up everything, literally everything, to save his love. He didn't have anything else left. And then once he was told that he himself had murdered that, PLUS his unborn child, he had nothing, nothing but his loyalty to Palpatine. He knew that the rest of his life would be empty and meaningless, nothing more than a slave to Palpatine.
    I don't know, personally, I like it. Just my opinion though
     
  5. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Force Ghost star 6

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    They better say "No", dammit! Yes, overuse in drama movies generally flop but Star Wars is a more iconic, mythical series. People yell "Nooooooooooooooooooo!" to the heavens in those stories!
     
  6. Jedirush2112

    Jedirush2112 Jedi Master star 4

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    You miss understood me, I understand why he said it. It was the way it was said. He sounded whinny, it deminished what we all knew Vader to be. I was critizing the tone more than the word.
    :cool:
     
  7. Seagoat

    Seagoat PT and Music Section Dictator star 5 Staff Member Manager

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    Ah, I apologize for the misunderstanding then. Very good ^_^
     
  8. BarkingFrog

    BarkingFrog Jedi Master star 2

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    George made a point of having one major "NO" moment in each film so I hope they continue the tradition.
     
  9. Jason79

    Jason79 Jedi Knight star 3

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    Still can't believe they actually added it to the blu ray of Jedi.:p
     
  10. Darth_Pevra

    Darth_Pevra Force Ghost star 6

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    Sometimes you could think Lucas is trolling his fans.

    Exactly! It was way over the top. Before the No, when he stumbled around saying "No, I couldn't have. I wouldn't have." that was great but the No trashed the scene.
     
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  11. Vthuil

    Vthuil Force Ghost star 5

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    I think an inarticulate roar of anguish would have worked. But even aside from the delivery, the "nooooooo" had just become too cheesy - even by that point - to use in a scene as monumental as that.

    But honestly, I don't think it's really any worse (apart from timing) from Luke's in ESB. So I stand by my manifesto as a whole: noooooo to "nooooooo"s in the ST.
     
  12. WatTamborWoo

    WatTamborWoo Jedi Master star 3

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    Would someone be able to post the "Noooo!"'s from each film. I can't think of them all myself at the moment...But I am sure if it is a recurring theme then I hope that they continue with it (the same with the "I have a bad feeling..:" or the blaster sounds etc).
     
  13. Jedi General Gelderd

    Jedi General Gelderd Jedi Master star 5

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    Off the top of my head we've had -

    Ep.I - Obi-Wan seeing Qui-Gon killed
    Ep.II - ....I can't actually remember the 'AOTC' "Noooo!"
    Ep.III - Darth Vader hearing he killed Padme
    Ep. IV - Luke seeing Obi-Wan killed
    Ep.V - Luke hearing Vader is his father
    Ep.VI - Darth Vader as he kills Palpatine
     
  14. Darth_Pevra

    Darth_Pevra Force Ghost star 6

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    So now we even keep the bad traditions? Does not compute.
     
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  15. Tan-Wessel

    Tan-Wessel Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The main reason that "Nooooo" sounds horrible and unauthentic...untrue to Vader is because he has already shown what he sounds like when he's truly pissed: (not sure if I'm quoting accurately) "Commander! Tear this ship apart until you've found those plans! And bring me the passengers...I want them ALIVE!"

    Just the way he yells "Alive!" already establishes to the audience exactly what Vader should sound like when he's majorly p-ed off. It's a snarl. The "Nooooooooooo!" is all whiney, half-hearted and weak.

    Man, I hate that scene. After he's all like "She was alive. I couldn't have" and taking everything in, he should have unleashed RAW Force all around him. What a missed opportunity to show raw, unbridled chaotic Force. All kinds of **** should have been blowing up and flying around the room with some of the heaviest Vader-suit breathing we've ever heard, not just some cups and beakers crunching and breaking. He should have slammed the Emperor into the wall both with using the Force and physically in all his anger fueling his Force power almost killing him for just being the messenger and illustrating just what Palps was bragging to Mace about how much more powerful he could/would be than they and then for the Emperor to find some weasely way or something to snap Vader out of it.
     
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  16. Darth_Pevra

    Darth_Pevra Force Ghost star 6

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    I think I just had a fangasm from reading that description.
     
  17. TCF-1138

    TCF-1138 Porg of New Films & Fan Films star 5 Staff Member Manager

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    Qui-Gon's voice when Anakin kills the Tusken Raiders: "Anakin, Anakin, noooo!"
    Well, at least they want us to believe it's Qui-Gon. Doesn't sound anything like him though - and the "Anakin" is lifted straight out of TPM ("Anakin, drop")
     
  18. Jedi General Gelderd

    Jedi General Gelderd Jedi Master star 5

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    Haha, very true - don't who the "Noooo" is meant to be, I've always thought that. Fair enough using Qui-Gon, but don't know who that "Nooo" was, even to this day. Sounds nothing like Qui-Gon, I agree.
     
  19. Tan-Wessel

    Tan-Wessel Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    It sounds like Qui-Gon reacting to getting kicked in the balls.
     
  20. chris hayes

    chris hayes Jedi Master star 4

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    Jaina says nooooooooooo just after Han dies.......
     
  21. Visivious Drakarn

    Visivious Drakarn Jedi Master star 3

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    I'll just say that I think that Vader's NO! at the end of ROTS is good.
    At that time he's still big part Anakin with some feelings of love and remorse, he's still far from being Vader from the OT.
     
  22. Wookiee_Vader

    Wookiee_Vader Jedi Master star 2

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    I would have probably screamed my head off in despair/rage. Not comically shouted "nooooooooo....."
     
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  23. The Hellhammer

    The Hellhammer Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The universe has changed in the last 40 years. People don't say "No." anymore, now it's a galaxy of Yes Men.
     
  24. WatTamborWoo

    WatTamborWoo Jedi Master star 3

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    Did Palpatine have a good "Yesssss" moment in ROTS?
     
  25. Jedi General Gelderd

    Jedi General Gelderd Jedi Master star 5

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    I'd have loved to see, rather than a "NOOOOOOOOOO" for Vader at the end of 'ROTS', the final piece of Anakin Skywalker die with his faith and love for Padme, and him just sink to his knees, or collapse in grief. The final moments we see him as a "human" until the end of 'ROTJ'.
     
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