Obi Wan mentions Master Qui Gon

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  1. darthpigskin Jedi Knight

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    I've always found the relationship between Obi-wan and Qui-gon to be quite interesting.

    The comment that Obi-wan makes is something along the lines of: "I doubt even Master Qui-Gon would have used jedi like this."

    It seems that by saying this, Kenobi is acknowledging that Qui-Gon was somewhat of a rogue.

    What are some thoughts on this?
  2. UsErOfThEFaRcE Jedi Youngling

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    lol he said :not even master QuiGon couldve prepared the jedi for this.
  3. Krash RSA Emeritus

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    I never like the comparision of Anakin/Obi-Wan as a "father/son conflict"...because I felt they were more like brother, dealing with the lose of their mutual "father figure" Qui-Gon. Even when Obi-Wan is granted permission to train Anakin, he was taking on some of "Qui-Gon's defiance" in an attempt to live up to the example of his fallen master. Anakin took an immediate sense of connection to Qui-Gon in TPM...and his death left Anakin wondering who would be his mentor now? Obi-Wan tried to act like a parent (of sorts) as a final promise to Qui-Gon...but there was always that "brothers" relationship.

    I think Obi-Wan's moment of reflection, was a moment of doubt in his training of Anakin...could their "father" have done a better job then he did? Could Qui-Gon have tamed Anakin's moments of aggression and over confidence?
  4. darthpigskin Jedi Knight

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    Yeah Krash. Good thoughts.

    It seems that Obi-wan only took in Anakin as his Padiwan because Qui-Gon all but forced him to promise to do it.

    Still... interesting that they threw in that Qui-Gon comment.

    Was he refering to the Jedi fighting in the Clone Wars or was he specifically talking about Anakin?

    "I doubt even Master Qui-Gon would have prepared a Jedi for this".

  5. Ozzel TF.N Foreign Book Covers Staff

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    The thing that bothered me there was that the actor put the accent on "Gon" instead of "Qui" when he said his name. Obi-Wan never said it like that.

    *grumble, grumble* :mad:
  6. waheennay Jedi Master

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    According to Gennedy's commentary track on Hyperspace, the Obi-wan's voiceover musings about Qui-Gon was something they added at the last minute. It was a nice touch.
  7. AAMD11 Jedi Master

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    I think he says "I doubt aven master Qui Gon could prepapre a Jedi for something like this" I do find the relationship between Qui Gon and OB1 quite interesting. I always wanted to see that relationship expand but oh well life's full of surprises, surprises are brought by life.
  8. Latorski Force Ghost

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    I liked that part. It's a nice little TPM connection. It lets us know that even Obi-Wan has insecurities and that a Jedi never stops learning.
  9. Rholynn Jedi Knight

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    Very good thoughts, Krash. I also always saw more of a brother relationship. I hope that we see some sort of resolution of the Qui-Gon questions in Ep. III.
  10. JediTrilobite Force Ghost

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    It seems that by saying this, Kenobi is acknowledging that Qui-Gon was somewhat of a rogue.


    How so? He just said that he didn't think that he was well prepared enough, and that most of the Jedi weren't prepared...
  11. jabba_the_nut Jedi Knight

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    It's a little weird to me to a voice-over like that in Star Wars. Nothing like that is in any of the movies, except maybe when Luke's seeing the future on Dagobah.
  12. Krash RSA Emeritus

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    How so?
    I think what Obi-Wan was refering to was Qui-Gon's ability to "think outside the box"...even by jedi standards. Would Qui-Gon have been able to make the transition from ambassador/guardian...to general of The Army of the Republic?

    That moment showed that leading a war, is a concept foriegn to the basic principles of the jedi...which has required them to change the way they think/act. Obi-Wan's reflective moment was just his pondering Qui-Gon's ability to succeed where he views himself as failing.
  13. YouAgain Force Ghost

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    It was a nice little tie in!
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