I'm not really sure if this thread belongs here, or in the OT Forum. The reference is from the OT, but the discussion centers on events of the PT, so I thought maybe it belonged here more? LOL! ANYWAY.... in ROTJ, Luke and Vader have their conversation on Endor, where Luke tries to get through to his Father, telling him there is still good in him, how he feels the conflict inside between Anakin and Vader, tells Vader he won't take Luke to the Emperor,and at one point he implores his Father to "Come with me." - I'm assuming to leave the Emperor and the Sith behind. Vader's response is interesting : " Obi-Wan once thought as you do. You don't know the power of the Dark Side. I MUST obey my Master." My question -and the reason for this being here - is what does that mean, Obi-Wan once thought as you do? This is in direct response to Luke saying Vader still has good in him, that Vader won't kill Luke or turn him over to the Emperor, and Luke's plea for Vader to go with him. Um... at what point did this happen concerning Obi-Wan. Indeed, once Kenobi discovers Anakin is the new Sith, he goes from horror, to trying to get Padme to reveal Anakin's location so he can kill him, to finally the duel on Mustafar where Kenobi will "Do what I must." ... Maybe I'm missing something, but i never saw anything to make me think Kenobi believed Anakin could turn back, and DEFINITELY no conversation between Obi-Wan and Vader to make Vader think Kenobi thought as Luke does, that his Father can be redeemed. Once he turns Sith, Kenobi and Anakin only have antagonistic conversation, and then right into a life and death duel. Just wondering what everyone else thinks of this?