Great post PiettsHat. I completely agree. I particularly like this: Edit: And, just to clarify, the reason I say the "certain point of view" thing is rubbish is because if you know the person you are talking to is going to understand your statements in a manner that doesn't convey the reality of the situation, then you are lying. When Obiwan's discussing this with Luke, he's talking to someone who is very obviously going to take what he says 100% literally. And Obiwan knows it. He's consciously manipulating Luke. It's not a case of him thinking he's telling the truth and then subsequently being misunderstood, as the "certain point of view" line later tries to claim that it is.