Observations of AOTC

While watching ATTACK OF THE CLONES a few days ago, I made a few observations:

*Why did Obi-Wan assume that he and Anakin - together - could take care of Count Dooku, a veteran Jedi Knight? Had he forgotten his and Qui-Gon's difficulties with Darth Maul in TPM, so easily?

*And why did Obi-Wan hand Anakin his lightsaber? Did he really think that Anakin would be able to effectively fight Dooku with two of them?

*After Padme falls from the gunship, Obi-Wan admonishes Anakin for putting her before the need to capture Dooku. Yet, later in the film, Yoda actually commits the very error that Anakin was about to commit, when he saved Anakin and Obi-Wan . . . and allowed Dooku to escape.

*While on the subject of Yoda, he had committed a lot of mistakes . . . all for the preservation of the Jedi Order. He had decided to use the clone army from Kamino in order to come to the rescue of the Jedi Knights on Geonosis. He had decided to lie to the Republic Senate about the Jedi's diminished use of the Force. And, as mentioned above, he put Anakin and Obi-Wan before Dooku's capture. It would seem that Yoda was just as emotional attached to the Order, as Anakin was to Padme and Shimi.

*Did anyone noticed the blue woman, standing next to Ahmed Best, inside the Corusant nightclub? She was really checking Anakin out.

*Did anyone noticed that some of the dialogue exchanged between Obi-Wan and Dooku was very similar to the dialogue exchanged between Luke and Vader in TESB?

*It is interesting that both Obi-Wan and Yoda were willing to dismiss Dooku's claim that a Sith lord was controlling the Republic Senate. And yet, it was Mace Windu who had suggested that it would be best to keep an eye on the Senate.

 

*After Padme falls from the gunship, Obi-Wan admonishes Anakin for putting her before the need to capture Dooku. Yet, later in the film, Yoda actually commits the very error that Anakin was about to commit, when he saved Anakin and Obi-Wan . . . and allowed Dooku to escape

Padme wasn't about to be crushed and killed.

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Yes, I understand that. But Yoda put the lives of two members of the Order over the more important factor of Dooku's capture. He had committed the very same error that Obi-Wan had admonished Anakin for almost doing, when Padme fell out of the ship. After all, neither Anakin or Obi-Wan had no idea if Padme was seriously hurt or not.

 

*Why did Obi-Wan assume that he and Anakin - together - could take care of Count Dooku, a veteran Jedi Knight? Had he forgotten his and Qui-Gon's difficulties with Darth Maul in TPM, so easily?

Perhaps Obi-Wan simply thought that it was their job to capture Dooku. Like, if two police officers go to capture a criminal, and one is killed; well, the next time the surivor has to do his job, he has to do his job.

*And why did Obi-Wan hand Anakin his lightsaber? Did he really think that Anakin would be able to effectively fight Dooku with two of them?

I would assume so. If Obi-Wan thought it would be a hindrance, I don't think he would've given it to him. It does seem like two sabers would be a lot more effective than one, at any rate.

*After Padme falls from the gunship, Obi-Wan admonishes Anakin for putting her before the need to capture Dooku. Yet, later in the film, Yoda actually commits the very error that Anakin was about to commit, when he saved Anakin and Obi-Wan . . . and allowed Dooku to escape.

Anakin and Obi-Wan were about to be crushed. Padme fell onto a sand dune. Obi-Wan probably knew she wasn't in any life-threatening danger. Like "We can't just put the ship down because Padme fell out- if she's dead, she's dead. If she's not dead- she'll be alright. But we can't just put the ship down to make sure Padme is okay".

*While on the subject of Yoda, he had committed a lot of mistakes . . . all for the preservation of the Jedi Order. He had decided to use the clone army from Kamino in order to come to the rescue of the Jedi Knights on Geonosis.

Well, it was the clone army of the republic.

He had decided to lie to the Republic Senate about the Jedi's diminished use of the Force.

He didn't really lie. He just never told them about it. Remember, he gave his reason saying that it would just make things worse. Their enemies would multiply.

And, as mentioned above, he put Anakin and Obi-Wan before Dooku's capture. It would seem that Yoda was just as emotional attached to the Order, as Anakin was to Padme and Shimi.

Hm. Yeah. That could be true, too.

*Did anyone noticed the blue woman, standing next to Ahmed Best, inside the Corusant nightclub? She was really checking Anakin out.

Yeah, the twi'lek girl? There was also another girl checking him out, and Obi-Wan. I think she had blonde hair and green lip-stick. Really cute, too. Wasn't that twi'lek girl GL's daughter or something?

*Did anyone noticed that some of the dialogue exchanged between Obi-Wan and Dooku was very similar to the dialogue exchanged between Luke and Vader in TESB?

Yeah. There were tons of similarities between the two movies.

*It is interesting that both Obi-Wan and Yoda were willing to dismiss Dooku's claim that a Sith lord was controlling the Republic Senate. And yet, it was Mace Windu who had suggested that it would be best to keep an eye on the Senate.

Mace rocks.

 

The answer to all your questions......

"You're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view." - Obi-Wan - Return of the Jedi

 

Isn't that the truth! I guess that's why I don't listen to film critics.

 

*Why did Obi-Wan assume that he and Anakin - together - could take care of Count Dooku, a veteran Jedi Knight? Had he forgotten his and Qui-Gon's difficulties with Darth Maul in TPM, so easily?

He wasn't assuming anything. He simply knew they had to take down Dooku to avoid an all-out war. Obi Wan knows his own limits, knew he couldn't take Dooku out on his own. He was hoping with Anakin's combined talents, they could win.


And why did Obi-Wan hand Anakin his lightsaber? Did he really think that Anakin would be able to effectively fight Dooku with two of them?

Because Anakin should be able to - even Obi Wan admits that he has a natural talent for fencing. He thought two would help give Anakin an advantage. Dooku simply proved to be more powerful.



*After Padme falls from the gunship, Obi-Wan admonishes Anakin for putting her before the need to capture Dooku. Yet, later in the film, Yoda actually commits the very error that Anakin was about to commit, when he saved Anakin and Obi-Wan . . . and allowed Dooku to escape.

Lucas has noted this as an important plot point, one that helps us to understand Yoda's words to Luke in ESB a bit better.



While on the subject of Yoda, he had committed a lot of mistakes . . . all for the preservation of the Jedi Order. He had decided to use the clone army from Kamino in order to come to the rescue of the Jedi Knights on Geonosis. He had decided to lie to the Republic Senate about the Jedi's diminished use of the Force. And, as mentioned above, he put Anakin and Obi-Wan before Dooku's capture. It would seem that Yoda was just as emotional attached to the Order, as Anakin was to Padme and Shimi.

Or more importantly, he's attached to the preservation of the Order and Republic as a whole. Remember, the Jedi are working on the puzzle with only half the pieces to fill in. Yoda can only make decisions based on what he knows and believes to be right, even if he has a nagging feeling something is wrong.



*Did anyone noticed the blue woman, standing next to Ahmed Best, inside the Corusant nightclub? She was really checking Anakin out.

I don't blame her.



*Did anyone noticed that some of the dialogue exchanged between Obi-Wan and Dooku was very similar to the dialogue exchanged between Luke and Vader in TESB?

Well, of course. Sith all read from the same handbook.



*It is interesting that both Obi-Wan and Yoda were willing to dismiss Dooku's claim that a Sith lord was controlling the Republic Senate. And yet, it was Mace Windu who had suggested that it would be best to keep an eye on the Senate.

Less dismissing on their part and more denial than anything else. And keep in mind that Yoda is just as wary of what's going on - try rewatching the audience with Palpatine scene at the beginning of AOTC sometime. The look he gives Palpatine at one point says flat out that he doesn't trust him.

 

*Why did Obi-Wan assume that he and Anakin - together - could take care of Count Dooku, a veteran Jedi Knight?

More like he knew he had little chance against Dooku alone.

*And why did Obi-Wan hand Anakin his lightsaber?

Well, HE sure wasn't using it.

*After Padme falls from the gunship, Obi-Wan admonishes Anakin for putting her before the need to capture Dooku. Yet, later in the film, Yoda actually commits the very error that Anakin was about to commit, when he saved Anakin and Obi-Wan . . . and allowed Dooku to escape.

Damn Yoda for his compassion! Why can't he be a hardass like Obi?


*While on the subject of Yoda, he had committed a lot of mistakes . . . all for the preservation of the Jedi Order. He had decided to use the clone army from Kamino in order to come to the rescue of the Jedi Knights on Geonosis. He had decided to lie to the Republic Senate about the Jedi's diminished use of the Force. And, as mentioned above, he put Anakin and Obi-Wan before Dooku's capture. It would seem that Yoda was just as emotional attached to the Order, as Anakin was to Padme and Shimi.

Reminds me of the Catholic priesthood shielding their own no matter what their crimes. Jedi poodoo!


*Did anyone noticed the blue woman, standing next to Ahmed Best, inside the Corusant nightclub? She was really checking Anakin out.

Nah, she was making sure this Jedi punk was moving on before continuing her...business with Best. Besides, said punk was easy on the eyes.

*Did anyone noticed that some of the dialogue exchanged between Obi-Wan and Dooku was very similar to the dialogue exchanged between Luke and Vader in TESB?

Of course! I finally got interested in the movie at that point. Just kidding...mostly.

 

The only thing that would have made AOTC better was Anakin and Obiwans fights with dooku being longer