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Offending the Union Jack Flag

Discussion in 'United Kingdom' started by DarthArsenal6, Mar 24, 2002.

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  1. MOTs_Minx

    MOTs_Minx Jedi Knight star 6

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    Yeah...well Alex Ferguson is a dyke jumping ****!

    I still stand by my statement that no foreign players should be allowed to play for UK teams.
     
  2. Ooh_Aah_Cantona

    Ooh_Aah_Cantona Jedi Knight star 6

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    My penny's worth. until the development of young players is sorted they should do it. No need why the team should lnaguish. And then it can be like Ireland and young kids will want to play football again and come through ranks. Something has to be done about the number of foreigners though. It's killing small national teams like Scotland. I for one want to see a strong Scottish team.















    It's always more fun when we beat them then. ;)
     
  3. Gav Daragon

    Gav Daragon Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Feeling all patriotic

    I still prefer Flower of Scotland though
     
  4. Poodu

    Poodu Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Alex Ferguson is a dyke jumping ****

    Now there's a strange image....
     
  5. Gav Daragon

    Gav Daragon Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Can you imagine all those Americans that are eligable to play for Ireland? ;)
     
  6. AlphaWolf

    AlphaWolf Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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  7. Poodu

    Poodu Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Yeah, but we know they're hopeless at real sports... that's why they had to invent ones that no-one else can play...
     
  8. Ooh_Aah_Cantona

    Ooh_Aah_Cantona Jedi Knight star 6

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    and call it a world series......
     
  9. MOTs_Minx

    MOTs_Minx Jedi Knight star 6

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    Okay...sounds like a trip to the JC beckons... ;)

    //Snigger
     
  10. MayhemUK

    MayhemUK Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Just to clear up the misconception about baseball's World Series... it's called that because it was first sponsored by the WORLD newspaper in the US... hence the name. Nothing to do with the globe as a whole.

    If the Scots have their German manager... double bonus for beating them in the future ;) :p
     
  11. MOTs_Minx

    MOTs_Minx Jedi Knight star 6

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    //sigh

    Mat...once again you miss the POINT!!!

    We don't really give a toss about why its called the World Series.

    You are far too american for your own darn good!

     
  12. LadyVader81

    LadyVader81 Jedi Knight star 6

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    its a rip off of rounders anyway ;)
     
  13. Gav Daragon

    Gav Daragon Jedi Grand Master star 5

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  14. MayhemUK

    MayhemUK Jedi Padawan star 4

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    You expect me not to be ever so slightly American tainted after dating one for so long Cass? ;)
     
  15. MOTs_Minx

    MOTs_Minx Jedi Knight star 6

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    Well I aint over-English am I cuz I'm with Jon.

    I refuse point blank to be any-English anyways ;)

    ...apart from the Newt accent
     
  16. Ooh_Aah_Cantona

    Ooh_Aah_Cantona Jedi Knight star 6

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    according to this, the newspaper sponsorship isn't why it's called the world series.

    urban myth
     
  17. MayhemUK

    MayhemUK Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Hmmm... some other websites and reference materials (obviously the ones I've read) had better check their facts then...
     
  18. Darth Scourge

    Darth Scourge Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Yeah, why can't England's national anthem be LHG? The Celts of this island get their own anthem but we Saxons have to use that plodding dirge.
    Alpha Wolf... I don't know about the swastika being a Roman peace symbol, but I do know that it has been used by many cultures for thousands of years, including Europeans, Native Americans and it's even used in Judaeism. However, the symbol which the nazis used (and tainted) was a runic sunwheel, used by the pagan Norse, Anglo-Saxon and Teutonic peoples.
     
  19. DarthArsenal6

    DarthArsenal6 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    "I don't know about the swastika being a Roman peace symbol, but I do know that it has been used by many cultures for thousands of years, including Europeans, Native Americans and it's even used in Judaeism. However, the symbol which the nazis used (and tainted) was a runic sunwheel, used by the pagan Norse, Anglo-Saxon and Teutonic peoples."

    See what I mean they have to go and steel someone elses symbol because they are too dam thick to think about themselfs.


    Well I hope in the world cup we show a good example when Saint Georges Flag is displayed
    and those hooligans yobbos who ruin it for all of us-well I hope they all get arrested before the Cup.

    Just wanted to know what is exactly is our culture(English) anyway ?

    PS thanks to the people who mention that
    being English is not the colour of your skin but where you been born and where you have
    been brought up.

     
  20. Darth Scourge

    Darth Scourge Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The English are actually a rather exciting mixture of pre-Roman Celtic peoples, (who themselves intermingled with a proto-Scandinavian race who were indiginous to Britain from when Scotland and Norway were still linked by a land bridge, and who were living here long before the Celts invaded from mainland Europe) mixed with post-Roman Empire tribes of Angle, Saxon & Jute settlers, and with a rather large dose of Viking in there... particularly in northern England's Danelaw regions. (And, grudgingly... maybe a little bit of Norman too.)
     
  21. Simone

    Simone Jedi Youngling star 4

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    I have never really thought as the Union Jack as representing fascim. The Union Jack is now the offical flag of Northern Ireland, how can that be? I wouln't worry about it, it's the British flag, your British why can you not wear it with proud?
     
  22. MayhemUK

    MayhemUK Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Because liberal left-wing ***** think it would offend ethnic minorities. Sure we HAVE to cater to their religion, holidays, festivals etc, but woe betide celebrating our own! Ethnic peeps don't mind either way, it's another case of "do as we tell you, not how we do" attitude...
     
  23. DarthArsenal6

    DarthArsenal6 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I always thought it was groups like the BNP
    who tarnished the Union Jack
    ( as well as other facist groups who use the saint Goerge flag)

    ( By the way I'm Asian- Pakistan orgin)
    It's because of them I thought(when I was young) people who displayed the flag or flags were racists. And I'm thinking of some the Immiagrants, Assylm seekers, ethenic groups in England and people who from ASia and Africa, what are they going to say ?
    Some of my friends are mixing the sharwarts Sticker with the Union Jack Flag ( in terms of meaning)

    Why doesn't the gov do something about it and arrest anyone who use the Union Jack Flag and Saint Georges flag as symbol of White Supremacy. You don't see the US FLAG
    used it that manner-(Even ask Wormie2)


    PS because i'm born and raised here, am I classed as English ?
     
  24. MayhemUK

    MayhemUK Jedi Padawan star 4

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    You are whoever you want to class yourself as. Some of my Asian friends think of themselves as English/British, and some of them still regard themselves mainly as Indian/Pakistini etc.

    I'd be disappointed if you thought myself as being part of that right wing faction just for wanting to fly the national flag. Nobody ever complains when the Scottish/Welsh/Irish flags are flown. But the general population of England are made to feel bad for wanting to display our own flag just because of a small minority and the rampant anti-English feelings of left-wing liberals...
     
  25. DarthArsenal6

    DarthArsenal6 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Well said MayhemUK
    these days I don't think you're racist simply
    flying the Union jack or the Saint George Flag.


     
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