Official 1988 Election Thread

Discussion in 'Archive: The Senate Floor' started by SaberGiiett7, Aug 19, 2002.

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  1. SaberGiiett7 Jedi Master

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    Before I explain i'd like to inform everyone I plan on making threads for each of the major election years starting with 88,to 92,to 96,to 00,and eventually 04.What people do is talk about the differant canidates and special aspects of the races of each of the years.We'll mainly try to focus on the Presidential races.Talk about the issues key to the race etc.Now 1988
    Vice President George H.Bush and Senator Dan Qualye againest Govenernor Michael Dukakis and Senator Loyd Bentson(excuse my spelling)
    Discuss-
  2. Maveric Jedi Master

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    What would you like to discuss?
  3. SaberGiiett7 Jedi Master

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    Anything really.For enstance primary issues that were focused on.Mostly had to do with Crime and Defense right?
  4. tenorjedi Jedi Knight

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    I think this was the first time that personal life really seriously came into play in politics on the presidential scale. Maybe it's just cause I don't remember clearly but his wife's alcoholism really hurt Dukakis.
  5. SaberGiiett7 Jedi Master

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    I agree,alot of things got out in the open and personal attacks became the norm.
  6. Maveric Jedi Master

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    Dukakis was a poor candidate for president. He just did not have the necessary image. Of course, incidents such as riding in the tank and having a platform to stand on during the debate to make himself look taller next to GHW Bush didn't help either.


    The thing I remember the most is the VP debate between Bentsen and Quayle with the most oft repeated zinger of the day "I knew Jack Kennedy, Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. Senator, you are no Jack Kennedy."


  7. SaberGiiett7 Jedi Master

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    Yeah Bentson knew how to push the right buttons to come out on top.
  8. TeeBee Jedi Youngling

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    I was so apolitical back then, but I do remember some political cartoons, such as one comparing Dukakis to the whales that were stuck under the ice that year...just kept trying to stay afloat and alive.

    I also remember "Read my lips..no new taxes!"...was that the most haunting quote of all time or what?
  9. Maveric Jedi Master

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    Yeah, a candidate should never make a statement such as that when they know good and well that they cannot back it up.
  10. SaberGiiett7 Jedi Master

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    I think for the Dems it should have been reversed.Bentson should have been chosing.
  11. KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus

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    Would anyone mind if I changed the title and focus of this thread to "Past Elections thread"?

  12. tenorjedi Jedi Knight

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    well the spectrum of debateable topics in 1988 is more limited but this would be a mess debating Jefferson vs Adams or god forbid Gore vs Bush
  13. SaberGiiett7 Jedi Master

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    So instead of me making 5 more threads after this we just mix it into one.Sure your a Mod
  14. KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus

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    Well, it just seems like there would be more discussion available if it was all one thread, but if people feel like it should remain separate, that's okay too.
  15. SaberGiiett7 Jedi Master

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    If you think you should go ahead.Just make the thread title encompasses 88-00
  16. Maveric Jedi Master

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    Should Bush have used the "Willie Horton Ad"? That was the one in which Bush talked about Dukakis' weekend release program from prisoners and while out, Horton had raped a women and did some really, really bad stuff to the man before he died.


    EDIT: Edit in italics in deference to KW
  17. KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus

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    Er, I think we could have done without that one...
  18. tenorjedi Jedi Knight

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    Yeah that was okay to use. That one's more than just a "my bad" on Dukakis part. If his policy directly relates to something that horrible I think it's fair game to point it out.
  19. Kessel Runner Manager Emeritus

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    This was also the election that killed Hart's chances of ever being president with his affair.

    It was a campaign that focused very little on any real or substantial issues and rather focused on mudslinging in its purist form.
  20. Maveric Jedi Master

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    It is interesting that something that doomed one politician's chances of winning the Democratic nomination for presidency in 1988 was virtually ignored by the same party, and the voting public just four short years later.
  21. KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus

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    Yes, that certainly is interesting, Maveric. I was too young in 1988 to know what was going on, and I was barely old enough in 1992 to realize things, but it's remarkable that people had such different reactions. Maybe it was the picture proof against Hart that did it.
  22. Kessel Runner Manager Emeritus

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    I think that the 88 election was sort of a watershed for US political campaigns. It was the first post "Reaganomics" election. The country was on the cusp of a new era.

    Frankly I think so much about the U.S. changed right around that time. It was also during this time period that we had a new maturation in marketing and commercialism, which I hope has reached its zenith (but somehow I fear we have still quite some time to go before we get there).
  23. Maveric Jedi Master

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    We were also riding the tide of an economic upswing. Sociotropic voting theory holds that in such instances, voters are not likely to depart far from the present administration.
  24. Kessel Runner Manager Emeritus

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    This is true, but what I found interesting about the election was the general lack of apathy towards both contenders. At least to my memory, it was the first time when the heavy use of "lesser of two evils" was used to refer to the voting choices.
  25. SaberGiiett7 Jedi Master

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    What about your thoughts on Qualye as Bush's
    VP pick?
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