**Official** Arena Jedi Surviors

Next time I see the movie (or when I get mesa bootleg working... or both! ) I'll look carefully at that ship with Luminara in it.

We sure that both Plo and Sasee get into it? Along with Luminara (who, I now realise, is very cool!) and Shaak Ti.

BYE

 

I'm not sure about Plo. Saesee, Shaak and Luminara (who is awesome; read the Approaching Storm!) definately get into the same gunship. I thought I saw Plo with them, but I'm not sure. The other three I'm positive of. I'm trying to get a copy of AotC and verify all these things.

 

Adi, you're right... Plo, Saesee, Luminara and Shaak-Ti all get into one gunship.

Kit, Mace, Ki, and Yoda are in another one together.

And we know that other Jedi get out of gunships because we can see Aayla Secura and some 'other random Jedi' after they land.

The gunship that we see get shot down before they land to let everyone off did not appear to have any Jedi in it... FWIW it appeared to be flanking the other gunships that were carrying the Jedi.

- CGD

 

Thanks for the confirmation about Plo, CGD.

 

Let me get this info out here so you all know.

The characters Even Piell, Oppo Rancisis, Adi Gallia, Eeth Koth, and Depa Billaba were all inserted into the Jedi Council scene digitaly. Gin Clarke was not flown down to Australia to sit in a chair for one scene and be flown back to England. Notice that Oppo is computer animated. That is the reason why they weren't seen fighting in the arena. There character were inserted from stock footage of Episode 1. Jerome Blake is credited as playing Oppo but he actually did no work for Episode 2.

As for Saesee Tiin. He may have been digitally inserted into the council scene also. Thus would explain why the credits list Khan Bonfils as playing him. But the Saesee Tiin you saw in the arena was played by Jesse Jensen.

Now for the Jedi.

All these Jedi were present in Episode 2.

Anakin Skywalker
Obi-Wan Kenobi
Yoda
Mace Windu
Luminara Unduli
Barriss Offee
Ki-Adi-Mundi
Plo Koon
Adi Gallia
Saesee Tiin
Even Piell
Oppo Rancisis
Eeth Koth
Depa Billaba
Shaak Ti
Kit Fisto
Coleman Trebor
Stass Allie
Alta Ranga
Sarr Labooda
Bultar Swan
Jocasta Nu
Aayla Secura

All these Jedi were present on screen in the arena or on Geonosis.

Anakin Skywalker
Obi-Wan Kenobi
Yoda
Mace Windu
Ki-Adi-Mundi
Plo Koon
Luminara Unduli
Barriss Offee
Shaak Ti
Kit Fisto
Saesee Tiin
Coleman Trebor
Aayla Secura
Bultar Swan
Stass Allie
Alta Ranga
Sarr Labooda

JEDI SURROUNDED

Anakin Skywalker
Obi-Wan Kenobi
Mace Windu
Shaak Ti
Kit Fisto
Bultar Swan
Stass Allie
Luminara Unduli
Saesee Tiin
Plo Koon
Ki-Adi-Mundi
Aayla Secura

KNOWN DEAD

Coleman Trebor
Barriss Offee

KNOWN SURVIVORS

Anakin Skywalker
Obi-Wan Kenobi
Yoda
Mace Windu

JEDI THAT ARE SEEN BOARDING A RESCUE SHIP

Ki-Adi-Mundi
Plo Koon
Luminara Unduli
Shaak Ti
Kit Fisto
Stass Allie
Bultar Swan
Aayla Secura

Now Alta Ranga and Sarr Labooda i'm not sure about. The art of aotc book shows Alta Ranga looking like an old alien jedi. Using a walking stick. If the final product of him was that then he died in the arena. Sarr Labooda we have no clue what it looks like. So it could be there.

And the Nikto Jedi i'm not sure about either.

 

I was under the impression Sarr Labooda was Coleman Trebor but they just changed his name. And is Alta Ranga even in AotC? I've heard about him, but he's obviously not in the council, nor one of the survivors.

And are Bultar Swan and Stass Allie seen on a rescue ship? I know they probabaly survived, but can you see them get on a ship? I didn't think so, but I know Aayla isn't seen on a gunship, but in the second battle.

 

No prob Adi

I think the main problem with the end of the arena scene is mostly due to the editing...

For instance, just before the circle is formed, we see at least 2 dozen Jedi getting shot at by the droids (they seemed to be 'generic', non-circle Jedi, and there weren't that many shots being taken by the droids), and then, we get a cut to the final circle a few seconds later.

The whole part of the droids putting Ki, Aayla, and Plo into the circle was just strange. We *see* them lighting their lightsabers in the stands earlier, so what did they do, surrender/get cornered by the droids that were killing every other Jedi there? I know they were 'supposed' to be up on the droid control ship, but it is still weird editing.

As for Barriss [I too, highly recommend reading 'The Approaching Storm' ], to me, it is a complete mystery as to what happens to her in the arena... after we see a shot of her near Luminara turning on her lightsaber, I never saw anything with her black on black color of robes *again* throughout the rest of the sequence... strange. Maybe Luminara told her to vamoose after things started getting too hairy, since she was still a Padawan. Or, maybe she went to heal a few Jedi (TAS reference)!

The dust will settle eventually, and AOTC is still an awesome movie!

- CGD

 

Well the diting to AOTC was a piss poor job. Ben Burtt and the crew should be fired and shot while hanging from a noose.

 

When do we see Aayla and Plo in the arena before being put into the circle?

I know you see Ki-Adi igniting his sabre.

You know what annoys me. Before seeing this film we had no idea. And now after seeing the film (for some of us multiple times) we STILL don't know...

BYE

 

Whats that book? Never heard of it!

 

HBMC_Kloon:

Ki, Plo, and Aayla are in the same shot lighting their sabers.

Ki is sort of off-center, Plo is on his left, and Aayla is farther away. This all takes place near the left edge of the screen, and sitting near the left wall of the theatre today gave me a great vantage point to see them.

- CGD

 

Interesting. All three are there.

Do we think the Control Ship mission was filmed, or was putting all three of them in a "sabre" shot simply a pickup to cover up the fact?

BYE

 

Did the Nikto Jedi get thrown into the door by the Acklay on screen? I didn't see it, and that was how it was supposed to happen.

 

well I know in the starfighter game Mace told Adi that he was sending Saesee Tin up to help and that was in the final stage of the game. Now what happened to him is beyond me they never mentioned him after that, now maybe it does show he did survive the Arena.

 

i really need to see the movie again...just reading all this stuff, i missed so many things in the arena battle

i only saw Ki-Adi when he ignited his saber.....didn't have time to look around at the others

i definetly know the first thing i'll be doing when i get the DVD......slow-mo on the wohle arena battle, making sure i can see EVERYTHING

 

JediCouncilBoy4,

What book are you asking about that I mentioned?

"The Approaching Storm" by Alan Dean Foster is a hard-cover novel that fits directly (we're talking a matter of months) before AOTC. Mace Windu mentions "Ansion" early in the movie, which you'll see mentioned many times in TAS.

The droid control ship thing takes place in the AOTC novelization by R.A. Salvatore.

- CGD

 

Uhh... no it doesn't?

What page?

BYE

 

I hope that their side quest was filmed. That will be an awesome editon to the DVD.

 

Thanks thats the book. You would think the novel would say who survived?

 

<<The droid control ship thing takes place in the AOTC novelization by R.A. Salvatore.>>

it most definetly wansn't, i've read the book like 10 times now, and i would definetly remember it

popular belief is that it was abonded to put in the droid factory scene

the scene was still filmed though

 

But do we have proof that it was filmed?

All we know is that the bit with Obi and Mace talking about "it's already being taken care of" was filmed.

Not the control ship though.

BYE

 

<<But do we have proof that it was filmed?

All we know is that the bit with Obi and Mace talking about "it's already being taken care of" was filmed.

Not the control ship though.

BYE>>

we did get a copy of the filming details (can't remember what it was called....a filming report thingy) in a spy report like ages ago.....where it said of ki-adi-mundi, plo koon and a few other jedi barging into the control room

 

I hope Plo actually speaks in the deleted scene.

 

Me TOO! It's getting late here. Almost 1 A.M. Night All!

 

<<I hope Plo actually speaks in the deleted scene.>>

yeah, we says something like 'Yes, we did it, now we have a chance'

and in the novel, he also had a line in the scene in Palpatine's chambers at the start of the film.....i wish that was in the movie