Full Series *Official* Clone Wars Continuity & Canon Thread

I'm just wondering because I always got the impression that because Lucas is involved in the three projects, it makes it canon on the lines of the six films since it's his vision and he is afterall the creator of the saga, wheras all the other EU material wasn't done by him so it doesn't represent his true vision.

We've been getting a number of threads on continuity lately, so let's make this one the official one and try to keep continuity discussion here.

EDIT 2- Updating title to better state the catch-all for canon discussion

 

It's still EU. Although I think that it has been said - half-joking - by LFL representative that the Live TV series will be given a more special standing, somewhere between most of the EU and the movies.

 

I'm going to say it's not EU just for the fact GL and the gang have most if not all the input in the series'. That's my 2 cents, but this EU/Canon stuff has been known to start wars.

 

To me, it's all the EU. I'm one of those who feel the films are canon and everything else is the EU. Plain and simple.

 

It's EU. It just has a higher level of canon than the rest of the EU.

 

Lucas has always considered EU and movies like two separate things, if he decide to write-or at least supervize all writers on the first season, the LAS will probably contradict with existing EU material on some minor details.

 

Actually, both the TV series will be considered T-canon and they will be on the same level as the movies due to the fact that George is writing all of the stories (The hired writers write the scripts from George's stories).

 

Wasn't T-Canon below G but above C?

 

I regard to coming TV projects as an interesting miz of Canon and EU. Yes, Lucas is heavily involved, more so than on compleet EU works, but the makers of the TV shows do have licence to develop storylines and characters in ways that they want so. So, to me its a mix of both creative elements.

 

What's the difference anyway? At this point, there aren't going to be any more movies, so I can't see anything being more canon from here on out than these TV Shows. It sounds like this is where GL wants to take the franchise anyway for the near future. To me, the TV shows will be just one step away from the movies...and that's probably a good thing anyway.

As for Unleashed...that's tougher to say. GL wanted a video game friendly world and that's what Unleashed is. Guess we'll have to get details of the story before knowing more.

I'm just glad we have so much going on to continue the saga.

 

I'm going to sit on the fence on this one, for the simple reason that the three projects stem from GL and company and not some other random author, writer, illustrator, and what not. Furthermore, like Shadow of the Empire , these three have the potential to be rated very high in the EU area if it can be classifed as EU.

For me EU, represents anything that GL does not do, that is before TPM and after ROTJ. One thing that we haven't seen is that GL hasn't really authorized/produced/or directed anything that is not withingn the 6 movie series.

Yes, GL has given input on numerosu projects, but not on the same level that the video game, new clone wars series, and the live action seires will take place in. One thing of note also, is that with the exception of the video games, GL and and company have really never authorized the production of any animated or live action show that is not in-between the movies. Just look at the Star Wars Holiday TV Special, The Ewoks and Droids cartoonse series, the 2-d Clone Wars cartoon shorts, and the new clone wars cartoon series (3-d) and the new live action? See a pattern?

The live action series is really EU in a sense that this has been waht every other licensee has been doing. The difference is going to be that GL is involved and it will be interesting to see what they decide the course of action is going to be and if they are going to say...This is how it happened after Episode 3 before Episode 4. Much like the Force Unleashed video game which will set the path as to what occurred after 7 years of the Empire being instituted. This means, that any new stories must fit with the above listed and cannot contradict what GL and company have put out.

The new clone wars series will be real good, and will surpass the original clone series of shorts due to the level of storytelling that will be told plus the way they could tie it in with the movies. Due I think that it will conflict with what Dark Horse has done...probably not, but you can kiss the video game, animation, and possible short stories as bye bye. I do feel that the new series will tie real well with the novels, and we may get a new loo towards the begining Battle of Corsucant. Now that is worth watcihing alone.

The true EU for me represents, the novels, comic books, video games, roleplaying games, short stories, and the toys, since they have over the yeasr been the ones to over all eras. The others, well, maybe EU, but not on the same level.

 

They're EU, in that they're not the movies, but this has no bearing on their canon standing: for our purposes, everything-- including the films-- are the same "level" of canon.

 

Just saw this quote on the USA Today CW article and thought it was relevant to this discussion:

http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2008-02-11-clone-wars-side_N.htm

 

Exactly. I think it all just depends on what you want it to be. Yes, by its canonical definition it is a form of EU - but Lucas' involvement can't be ignored. Lucas decides what stays and what goes, I'm sure. And the amount that Lucas has been talking about it (Clone Wars, not TFU) seems to indicate it will have a special place, even if he isn't the sole creative aspect of it. So no, I'm not going to consider it taking place in the "alternate universe" Lucas talks about, even if it fits in with the definition of EU. If there are people who consider Palpatine being cloned after ROTJ canon, then, pshh, I'll consider this canon.

 

I'd say no. It's orchestrated by the flanneled one...it's his baby.

 

Well none of it is real. It's all fiction.

To me, it's up to each person if they want to consider each part of the Star Wars Story.

 

it's no fiction, it happened "a long time ago, in a galaxy far far away"

 

Haha, agreed. Anything that GL has to do with is not EU.

 

The CW updated article on the main page mentioned that the The CW and the live action will are considered cannon (as in non-EU I assume). Though I'm not sure who was quoted.

 

never mind about whether its canon or not...

where can I find the new preview clip ?

 

QFT.

I also wanted to note the TFU was mentioned in the initial post. George's direct involvement with that project has not been shown to be any more substantial then some other Star Wars games that are considered "canon".

There is a terminology breakdown between the public and the fanbase, it would appear. The public sees much as "canon", where it appears some fans see "canon" meaning just G-canon.

When the word "canon" appears in the press, disregard it...most of the time, if it isn't obvious they have no clue what they are talking about...it's someone at LFL dumbing it down for the average Joe.

"canon" according to the shop, is as inclusive of material as possible...of course all this stuff will be included.

As such...I pray every night that Lucas himself is taking advantage of the Holocron, the Wook, and the fans before writing something that might stop the hearts of a percentage of us here and there. He can do it...he has the technology...and if I hear one more word about "vision" overriding consideration, I will hurl.