Animated Shorts Official Discussion - Clone Wars: Chapter 14 (The Ilum Incident) [spoilers]

wowowowow! this was a good episode


i didnt like their voices, i could of found better...



but good plot, and tommorow will be awsome



that one shot of barris like deflecting 20 in two seconds, was awsome!


theyre stuck under there and they have to keep their force hold or theyll be chrushed!



how do the droids cloak, its almost impossible!

 

Tomarrow's looks amazing.


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Good episode. Liked the syncronized moves. shows what a master/padawan relationship can be like with complete trust in each other (like Qui-Gon/Obi-Wan)

 

Great episode. I like how the second season is showing more Jedi.

-SWIG

 

Yes, and more lightsaber. Can't wait to see Anakin vs Asajj.


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Yes, very good teamwork!


im redoing lumaira into a custom, and getting out my old barris fig

 

Much like the NJO story in which Jacen uses a force bubble to hold back a collapsing building. I forget which book it's from.

With the Jedi doing all these amazing things with the force, it's a wonder they wern't able to take out all those droids in the Geonosis arena. I'd say for this difference the toons can't be considered canon. Mace's power definatly is far too exaggerated.


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I gotta see it again on Hyperspace. I saw it but didn't get a chance to listen to the voices.

For now, I got one criticism - the way Barriss assembled her lightsaber. I always thought that no matter how powerful a Jedi is, when building a lightsaber, he or she needs to use a set of tools. Tools to take apart the handle, to fuse the wires, etc. Also, the crystal she used. I always thought the focusing crystal needed to be symmetrical.

snap-hiss, you're probably thinking of Tahiri using the Force bubble to deflect the force of the explosion in Refugee.

Edit: the symmetrical idea is just my opinion. What I actually mean is the crystal needs to be shaped (cut) by the Jedi. Just as the rough gems are cut into brilliant stones before being set into the rings, bracelets, etc.

 

It's up on HS.

EDIT: For now, I got one criticism - the way Barriss assembled her lightsaber. I always thought that no matter how powerful a Jedi is, when building a lightsaber, he or she needs to use a set of tools. Tools to take apart the handle, to fuse the wires, etc. Also, the crystal she used. I always thought the focusing crystal needed to be symmetrical.

IIRC, the Jedi Quest hardcover book which sees Anakin build his first lightsaber tells us that the majority of the saber is built at the temple. The crystal is the only part done at the cave on Ilum. So all the wires and everything are already hooked up to the power cell. I geuss the golden metal bits are used to pass the electricity onto the crystal to power the beam (or something like that). As for the symmetrical thing, I've never heard that before.

 

I love Barriss.

 

We need some season two Clone Wars icons.


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Am I the only one who thought the "crystal is the heart" speech was cheezy? I felt like cringing

 

Am I the only one who thought the "crystal is the heart" speech was cheezy? I felt like cringing

It is cheesey, but it's supposed to be. It's not exactly designed to be amazing diologue.


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Even if it was cheesy, i kind of liked it. I didn't think that the assembly of the lightsaber was too off base. I figure Bariss had already constructed the mechanized parts of the lightsaber and just needed to insert its "batteries", ya know. It was great to see this episode, as Bariss and Luminous Luminara are two of my favorite side characters.

 

Good episode! Much better than the first Mace episode. Liked the twist ending! Loved the cloaking robots!

 

I thought this episode was ok, but....

1) The Jedi action was a bit of a letdown after such off the wall action before

2) If this jedi temple is so important, why do its defenses suck so much?

3) I think its stupid that they imply that the whole jedi order revolves around these crystals. I always thought to myself that lightsabres were just some modern weapon they used and maybe back in the day they used swords or something. I dont tknow if this is a fixture in the EU.


4) The cloking would make sense, imagine how expensive robots which can fly through space and still walk around and fight? For a robot that expensive you might as well include a cloking device. But we have never seen cloking in STar Wars b4, this cartoon is kind of going out on an edge to include it now.

5) Why was Yoda chillin an Amidala's ship?

6) How were they able to send a jedi signal over such a long area? Never seen anything like that b4 either.

 

Great episode!! Barriss and Luminara kick ass! I love season 2, first the great Mace and now this! The action is so awesome!!

 

It is cheesey, but it's supposed to be. It's not exactly designed to be amazing diologue.

You misunderstand me. It's not that I was hoping for Shakespear, I like that SW is cheezy. I'm not getting into that. What I mean was, it was corny. I like the way the Jedi are represented in the movies. In the Clone Wars, like other EU, the Jedi are a little too fruity and corny for my tastes. The action is good, but I guess I'm just getting into the way I dislike how the jedi mythology is expanded upon in the EU.

 

3) I think its stupid that they imply that the whole jedi order revolves around these crystals. I always thought to myself that lightsabres were just some modern weapon they used and maybe back in the day they used swords or something. I dont tknow if this is a fixture in the EU.

That's a very good follow up to what I was trying to say. This is how I feel also.

 

Great episode! It was cool to see Luminara and Barriss working together like that. It was also nice to hear them finally speak. And the lightsaber action was very cool.

Actually, the lightsaber action in the last three chapters has been really great, and chapter 15 looks to be just as cool with Yoda in action. I guess Padme and the droids will make an appearance, too.

I definitely can't wait...

 

To me, it's corny in the movies as well....

Anyhoo...uhm...some religions do have silly speeches like that....I actually liked the crystal speech.

1) The Jedi action was a bit of a letdown after such off the wall action before

These Jedi aren't Mace windu. Mace is second in power only to Yoda. Notice they have to concentrate and meditate very hard to keep the rubble from crushing them. They aren't as advnced as Mace.

Also...most religious order don't like their sacred temples desicrated with heavy weapons guarding the temple or not. The jedi definitely don't seem like the type to guard their temples. It's not in their nature.
Before the clone wars no one would think of trespassiong on Illum. After all, to an outsider the Jedi are pretty creepy. Probaly that's all it needed to guard the temple.

To the one who asked if sabres are important to Jedi in the EU....

They're important in the movies! Remember, Obi Wan said that a lightsabre is your life. Beyond that, they're used as a meditative tool. Not much else that I can think of.The lightsabres are only symbolic and not that central to the Jedi way.

 

FINALLY we got to hear female Jedi talk!! I like Luminara's accent, but I always imagined Barriss to sound American.

 

Excellent episode. Missed the broadcast...forced to watch the hyperspace version. For paying a subscription fee you would think they could up the resolution a bit. The audio on these is just wretched too. Are these still re-aired at 9?

 

Overall a pretty good episode. Ilum was beautiful and the action was nice but not over the top like last night's was. I can't wait to see Yoda in action tomorrow night.