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Discussion in 'EU Community' started by Guinastasia, Jan 11, 2014.

  1. Outsourced

    Outsourced Jedi Master star 4

    Apr 10, 2017
    That isn't what i'm talking about though.

    I'm talking about him being the only human Podracer at the age of nine.
  2. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Jedi Master star 4

    Aug 8, 2016
    Podracing seemed to be very intuitive based and dangerous. And something Anakin did either to make money or make Watto money. So I'm guessing his abilities were from his inherently great force potential-intuitive sense, a wee bit of precognition, the ability to focus on the moment, etc... His untapped force potential allowed him to win.

    Luke in Legends has an incident when he was six when a power converter or some other sort of device was missing and through intuitive sense figured into was under the sofa.

    Darth Plagueis investigates untrained yet potentially powerful force users such as that gambler for instance.

    So we have legends evidence that without training one is still capable of feats others might not be-a higher sense of danger, some base precognition, a sense of where oppurtunity is, etc..

    Basically raw untapped abilities that manifest themselves and allow the untrained force sensitive to survive or be "lucky" make money on the galactic stock exchange, etc...

    But these abilities aren't the same thing as training and actual work put into it.

    Think of untrained force users like pads of clay-they are raw, untrained and malleable.

    Now think of trained force users-sculptures, tested, ironed in fire, made more sophisticated and complex.

    The difference between an untrained force sensitive and a trained force users is the difference between the mound of clay and the sculpture, the kid who through sheer talent makes it on the football team and the kid who has gone to camp and worked at playing tight end(or whatever sport suits your fancy) his whole life.

    Raw barely tapped potential is not the same thing as training and skill.
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  3. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Force Ghost star 6

    Nov 12, 2012
    So at 8:36 at the Star Wars show Legends Noa Briqualon (Wilford Brimely from Battle for Endor) gets yet another another shout-out from Anthony and is declared canon on the high seas. It's nautical law! So on seas it counts!

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  4. crazyewok

    crazyewok Jedi Padawan star 2

    Oct 27, 2017
    So I get Disney logic.

    The EU was cumbersome, it was full of contradictions, was full of some terrible stuff and mostly would have constrained ideas for a new trilogy.

    However there are iconic parts of the old EU and bits many fans love.

    Personally I think some of it did have to be thrown out. But not all of it.

    If I had been in charge I would of done this:
    As a General rule kept most of the stuff up to the Thrawn Trilogy.
    Scrapped any part that was basically terrible or was full of major contradictions.

    Basically I would of reduced the EU to:

    Dark forces
    Shadows of the empire.
    Tie fighter and X wing games.
    X-wing books
    Zhan Trilogy.

    My opinion of course.

    How would you of handled the old EU?
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  5. Bardan_Jusik

    Bardan_Jusik Mand'alor - Manager of EUC, SWC and Anthology/BtS star 10 Staff Member Manager

    Dec 14, 2009
    This thread already exists and is stickied towards the top of the forum. Merging now.
  6. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Force Ghost star 6

    Nov 12, 2012
    I honestly thought they were going to amputate the EU at after Endor and keep everything before that but, honestly, that would have been a half-measure and still have created contradictions. And besides, one thing I do like with a canon reset izzat the Death Star plan heist is just ... Rogue One. That's it. Not, like, the multiple plans we got in the EU (which sort of makes every instance of it kind of meaningless)
  7. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Immortal Mod-King of the EUC, RPF and SWC star 8 Staff Member Manager

    Nov 15, 2004
    I assume the R1 heist compliments the other heists in my mind. It’s somewhat unlikely the Empire would keep the entire plan somewhere unless it was insanely fortified - but even then the Rebels would still have gone for all their various plans to obtain the plans just in-case.

    But it’s definitely a stronger story than the other efforts.

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  8. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Force Ghost star 6

    Nov 12, 2012
    I don't mind the multiple plans theory, it makes an Evil Empire evil and all, I just feel it sorta downgrades the dramatics of each narrative if there's another plan round the corner. Rogue One does a really good job of selling the "this is our one chance to make a real difference" narrative.
  9. SpecForce Trooper

    SpecForce Trooper Jedi Master star 4

    Jun 19, 2016
    At this point I’m glad Disney’s stories are separate. I’m definitely not happy that the EU is A: non-canon and B: basically stagnant. My ideal situation is the two being in separate canons but borrowing from each other. As the new stories release the EU could incorporate elements from them. SWTOR has basically done this, but we don’t have anything else. Wouldn’t it be nice if we had both canons in full force?
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  10. spicer

    spicer Jedi Master star 4

    Nov 14, 2012
    I'd take Rogue One over any story in Legends dealing with the Death Star plans theft. I can see how R1 can fit with Legends, but if I have to choose only one story, I'd go for R1 anytime.

    IMO yes it would. Other franchises have that going for them, why not Star Wars?
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  11. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Jedi Master star 4

    Aug 8, 2016
    They could have continued the old timeline and the new I think without too much of a logistical or marketing issue.

    They wouldn't have even had to have similar output-Disney could devote more time and resources to the Nucanon while maybe 1-2 or 3 legends books were released every year or every six months or something.

    Two timelines that don't interact or borrow from each other would have worked well.

    I think most old EU fans would have been happy with that sort of arrangement.
    Last edited: Jun 20, 2018 at 1:37 AM
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