Official Greedo in TCW thread

Before everyone starts bitchin about him speaking basic without even watching the episode, lets look at the realistic side of things here.

Not everyone in the Star Wars galaxy understands Huttese, in the same way not everyone on Earth knows how to speak Spanish. I don't think an assassin sent to kidnap a high ranking official of a totally different nationality would interrogate him in German.

 

I don't care about "characters speaking Basic" anymore. They won't use subtitles in the show. Jabba could speak it because he has a droid. Poggle's dialogue is almost inexistent, therefore no need for translation. And in the cell scene he has a droid too. For Bossk, we couldn't say he can't speak basic just because he hissed in TESB. For Greedo, if he has many lines, it's understandable that he has to speak Basic.

 

Well, for all we know they could be using that good old movie formula where everyone speaks English, even though in-universe they're speaking their own language. English with a German accent = the guy is speaking German. And so on.
It's been around forever and while I always liked the different alien languages we get to hear in SW, it's understandable why a show like TCW would choose to simplify things a bit.

And...uhm...from what I gather Greedo isn't even supposed to be born during the Clone Wars? Or is this Greedo the Elder?

 

I'll wait until I see the episode to pass judgement. But the basic and continuity problems aren't encouraging.

 

If it is Greedo the Elder...then it's all good.

I've actually enjoyed the Rodians speaking basic so far so it doesn't bug me.

 

It's gotta be Greedo the Elder. I'm pretty sure Filoni and crew know that Greedo isn't born until AFTER the Clone Wars.

 

For the sake of my sanity and enjoyment of the show, I'm 100% sure this Greedo we'll see in the next episode is Greedo the Elder, since the Greedo Han killed hasn't been born yet. Of course he's not known by his full name in the show because he hasn't had a son of the same name yet. There's no way that the episode will go so far out of its way to make sure there's no possible way this Greedo can't be the father of the Greedo we know from Ep4.

Since this thread is thus discussing Greedo the Elder (henceforth known as simply Greedo, for ease of communications), I have no qualms whatsoever with him speaking Basic. Makes perfect sense, as far as I'm concerned. I hope we see that rodian in some very cool scenes, and maybe we get some foreshadowing of why his son will be so poorly trained to go down like a punk one day.

 

Cartoon Network caused quite some confusion in te preview by stating Greedo was involved. Perhaps the episode guide will clarify which Greedo we're dealing with.

 

Speaking of episode guides: Please Lucas Online, bring back the full sinopsys.

 

Indeed, they're getting lazy. What's the point of an episode guide if you don't even have the plot in it. But I suppose there is no way someone involved in the making of these guides will read these posts, neither is there a way to let Lucasfilm know about our issues.

 

The casual viewer is going to assume they're the same guy, as the Greedo the Elder retcon is only known to EU fans. Most viewers will see two rodians, one name and think it's the same guy, so to all effects and purposes it is the one guy. hell, what does an old Rodian really look like? Onaconda Farr was probably over 45 and didn't look particularly different to Greedo.

 

I'm not gonna lie. Between a Greedo of ambiguous age and an ass-kickin Baron Papanoida, I have a very bad feeling about this.

 

Ugh..Greedo (if not Elder) in TCW is horrible.

 

Good points, well made

However, I do think that the wider population viewing this wouldn't probably notice those points - I didn't really notice them as a passionate Star Wars fan (though one who doesn't really follow the EU much). So I wouldn't put it past GL and the Clone Wars team to make this Greedo be Han's Greedo.

 

I'm pretty sure in GL's mind this is Han's Greedo. However, since that contradicts what we saw in Episode IV and other EU, and the episode itself most likely won't exclude the possibility of this being Greedo the Elder, it IS Greedo de Elder.

The funny thing is, I can't think of any way that they can, in the episode, make it undeniable that it is either Han's Greedo or Greedo the Elder.

The Episode Guide or interviews with Filoni, on the other hand...

 

Unless they suggest that this Greedo has a son or will have a son...

 

Meh, I'll wait til Greedo's episode airs in order to pass judgement.

 

If the Greedo in the upcoming episode is actually a badass...then we'll know it's Greedo the Elder.

 

Maybe he dies and then we'll be ...now what?

 

Wasn't Greedo the Elder's death already described somewhere?

 

Yes. And it would help if he actually fathered Greedo II before kicking the bucket.

 

You know, this is just my opinion, but they could pull off ANH Greedo if in Sphere of Influence he was a rowdy youth of maybe 13-15 years old. That would make him maybe 35-37 by the time he's shot by Han.

If humans can have growth spurts, why not Rodians? I myself was almost 6 feet tall when I was 13.

Sure its a stretch for a 13-year old Rodian kid to be involved in the kidnapping of the Chairman's family. But its not impossible.

Personally, I'd rather they be the same person, so that hardcore fans and casual fans are both talking about the exact same character. Don't know why, but I'd prefer it that way.