Discussion in 'Star Wars TV' started by fanboyskywalker, Jun 26, 2008.
4.7/14 18-49, 12.12 million viewers.
Apparently, it did amazingly, considering it caused two other networks to greenlight comic-oriented shows they were sitting on (one from Fox about pre-Commissioner Gordon as a young detective, and one for NBC based on Constantine). Both seem like huge obligatory jumpings-of-the-shark.
As for Agents of SHIELD, it's a solidly Joss Whedon show, at least in its current state. I wonder if that familiarity is necessary to appreciate it, because it's almost too polished on its own. I've seen great response from people who already follow nerdy things, and lots of bad response from the general public, so it seems to be an element.
Don't know if this has been posted yet. If it has my bad.. http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=87867
Excellent. Thank you.
"it might not be the dark brooding adventure that was described. There is talk going on, but nothing definite yet as to what a new series could entail. In fact, it may not even happen in the time it was originally set. Again, preliminary talks are still going on so many things could change but right now there's a debate as to whether or not a television show would take place in between the Prequel Trilogy and the Original Trilogy, or should they go forward with a series that's between the Original Trilogy and the Sequel Trilogy. This way they could play on the new mythos this new trilogy is creating."
I'll say this, I've grown very interested in Star Wars: Underworld, as it has been described to us. In themes, tone and time setting, all.
That said, I think a series set between ROTJ and Episode VII could be a really, really good thing, insofar as it could answer some questions about the 30 year time span covered only in the EU thus far.
Just as an example, my biggest hope as far as new characters in Episodes 7, 8 and 9 is that we'll see Luke's son, but should he appear as a young adult in Episode 7, there will be the natural questions of who is/was his mom, what is his story up until now, and all the rest. These type of questions would not be exclusive to "Ben," of course (they could conceivably be asked of whichever new characters we get). A series set during the middle period between the OT and ST could perhaps answer questions such as these.
Now imagine that maybe (just maybe) some effort will be made to keep a semblance of the EU continuity intact. Just loosely, of course, without requiring the writers to be too handcuffed. Well, a production set in the early post-ROTJ timeline could cover things like Rogue Squadron, Thrawn and the like, while also setting up new characters and storylines. Basically everything people were mentioning for a possible animated series set during this time, before we had confirmation that Rebels would be set during the 'Dark Times.'
Or... it could still be set between III and IV. Or the Old Republic. Or the far, far future.
Or nothing could come of it at all. Exciting times ahead!
If they set a live action series between RoTJ and SW7 it needs to have the Thrawn campaign in it.
Well, if we can't have Bryan Cranston playing a Death Stick dealer in the Uscru District...
Borrowing this idea from this thread in the Lit forum, what about a TV show featuring ordinary people in the Star Wars universe, just living lives in the GFFA without space battles and Empire-building going on around them all the time?
Hmm, sounds interesting, but I dunno that we could still call it Star Wars, though. Maybe something catchy like "Days of our Lives (in the GFFA)"?
edit: I'm just kidding. I didn't actually check out the link you provided yet.
It would just be a soap opera. With robots and flying cars.
You guys think ordinary people live like those in soap operas?
You know, by the time the live-action series actually goes into production, Ewan McGregor might actually be old enough to play a hermit Ben Kenobi close to the time of ANH!
On a more serious note:
You bring up a good point. If the decide to hold off production of the LAS until after all three films of the new ST have been finished, I could easily see them going this route. Especially if they decide to steamroll many aspects of the post-RotJ EU (it might be almost inevitable at this point). Say, for example, if the children of Luke Skywalker and the children of Han and Leia have different names and/or personalities than in the EU. They might decide to use a series taking place between Episodes VI and VII to establish the backstories of these key characters if they choose not to adapt, or to very loosely adapt, the post-RotJ EU into the ST. Filling in the blanks, so to speak.
The idea about the LAS should focus on ordinary folks is interesting, but I highly doubt they will go that route, because, as Trebor said, what is Star Wars without the Wars? Sure, you can have the everyman character(s) have a role in the plot, but most likely they would be a minor character, overshadowed by the hero(ine) protagonist(s). Star Wars is all about conflict, and I imagine whatever they decide for the LAS, if they choose to pursue it at all, would have it take place in a setting fraught with conflict.
Sidenote: The EU does have a number of stories with characters that could often be considered ordinary, though admittedly practically every story I'm aware of still features Force-users and/or warriors.
I already said I was kidding.
Since you've spent some time in 7SA, you're probably already familiar with this, but my hope for the ST is that the major players of the new generation will comprise loosely adapted versions of their EU counterparts. That is to say, giving Luke a son named Ben, and Leia and Han a daughter named Jaina, while still leaving the filmmakers free to do their thing with the characters (maybe Ben is a blonde, rather than a redhead, Jaina a bit younger than she has been depicted in the novels, etc.). With the films picking up where they seemingly will, with little or no fuss other than this, the post-ROTJ could have been kept relatively intact, while allowing the films the freedoms they will require. No problem, right? I'd think not.
At least, that is, until we start to consider the setting of new stories (potentially a live action series, even) in the interim between the OT and ST. In this case, yeah, I do worry about the potential it raises for the type of complete steamrolling you allude to (some is almost certainly inevitable, and I get that), but I'd like to believe that with a modicum of care, even with a production set during this time, things could be kept relatively workable with what has come before. After all, Hidalgo's been retained for some purpose, amirite?
Hello all. Follow the link above for an interesting article about ABC television network and a possible Star Wars live action show. ABC has put a lot of money into the Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. show by Marvel. As we know, Disney owns Marvel and Lucasfilm now. In the article they estimate that each episode of a Star Wars live action series would cost between 3 to 5 million in just special fx alone. If ABC has success with Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., then we just might get what we want. Joss Whedon would possibly be involved. Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D had a massive debut, but viewership dropped 34% after the first episode. Only time will tell folks...Samuel L. Jackson (Nick Fury) did make a cameo on the latest episode...Interesting. Mace Windu in a live action Star Wars series??? The future is unwritten!
Thoughts? When I saw this for the first time I thought it is just fanfilm, but looks like it is supposed to be a concept for Star Wars live action tv-show that was abandoned.
Here the offical abandoned and cancelled show News! http://www.avclub.com/articles/watch-this-a-scene-from-the-abandoned-star-wars-li,103844/
However the show could be back in production again judging by this information I got on what 5 ways disney might expand the Star wars franchise. http://wallstcheatsheet.com/stocks/5-ways-disney-plans-to-expand-its-star-wars-brand.html/?ref=YF
How about a live-action show about Sidious and Maul taking place before TPM?
Again, preliminary talks are still going on so many things could change but right now there's a debate as to whether or not a television show would take place in between the Prequel Trilogy and the Original Trilogy, or should they go forward with a series that's between the Original Trilogy and the Sequel Trilogy. This way they could play on the new mythos this new trilogy is creating
I have a bad feeling about this....
If they do a OT-ST fill-in show and it pisses all over Thrawn and the Thrawn campaign (in a "oh yeah, that? ummm well that stuff never actually happened, and that guy didn't exist, mmkay?" kinda way), I will stop watching SW forever.
You know, I'll say it. I've just about had it with these astronomical production costs for sfx. I'm calling bullsh*t on Disney, and on ABC. The reason? George Lucas made Star Wars for how much in 1977? 11 million? That was a whole movie, though! No computers, no CGI, no Jar Jar Binks, no crap. Those models and sets still stand the test of time for realism, and look far superior to any CGI I've seen, most of which is overdone, overused, and (finally, here's the proof!) overpriced! Spend a million on models and reusable molds for latex masks, another million on sets, buy an old Panaflex camera, and let's go! You can always add to it later once it takes off (and it will). CGI is rapidly becoming the ruin of quality movie making because it is the lazy man's way of wowing audiences to keep them from noticing thin plots, cliched characters, and general crappiness. Moreover, ABC, being owned by Disney, could reuse the models and sets used in the new movies, and has the funds to make them durable enough to use over and over again. The same goes for the latex molds for masks to use to create aliens. Maybe, instead of petitioning Congress to build a Death Star, we should have used it to get them to order a live-action show. It seems we might have had more success. I'm sorry if I'm a little bitter about this, but I'm tired of Disney's whining about production costs when they have enough money to buy a third-world nation. Durable models, molds, and sets, people. That's the key to lowering production costs in the long term! Just look to Stargate SG-1 for proof.
The only reason that they use CGI is because it's faster. They can make more in less time and therefore don't have to pay laborers, cast, or crew for as long.
I second that motion, and move the council to establish a contingency plan to stage a boycott should that come to pass.
Yes, Master Dinos, this is true, but these are one-time costs, for the most part. Once all the molds and stuff is made, it doesn't take much to pour latex and airbrush it once it's dried. A small team (oh, look! Disney has one! How convenient!) could maintain and repair/replace the stuff as it wears out once everything is made. Heck, Disney could put out a call and get thousands to labor free to donate time and material to be used in the production of the models, molds, and sets. How many Star Wars fans would refuse? Of course, that would never happen...
Live Action show probably will never ever be made
Unfortunately, Hollywood doesn't really care. They're looking for the quickest way to make a profit. They don't want to wait around for a cast when they can see results just by clicking around on a computer. The only time we actually get to see the old ways anymore is from film auteurs, who value quality over money.
A moment of silence for the death of quality...
Perhaps we should start a petition to send to Disney to open up the doors for set builders and model makers to donate time and material...? Do something like they did in the sixties to bring back Star Dreck? (lol!)