Discussion in 'Star Wars: Episode VII - Spoilers Allowed' started by YoureNotJonesy, Nov 2, 2012.
Browsing around Wookieepedia and... well, apparently Jacen is a midget.
Kind of self-defeating to kill the next generation off then, merely to play on the older generation for effect. You can't both have your cake and eat it.
I dunno, I simply think that in the end there were far too many books. I enjoyed most of them, reading them as a kid but just glancing at that shelf there are way too many. It watered down the material.
Exploring other avenues of that universe would've been more fun than watching the same folks over and over again.
An intellectual midget.
Amen to that. Anakin Solo died literally within books of becoming a really interesting character.
And what on earth is going on with that picture?!
In short? Caedus has very little leg beneath the knees.
Some artists are the best.
He could be half-kneeling to get his maximum Force Lightning on!
I get it.
Poor Jacen grows when he becomes Super Sayian.
The Denningification of everyone doesn't count. Besides Luke Han and Leia are still running around doing everything. They dropped the ball on the characters. They haven't given them interesting story arcs since NJO. Forced Jag and Jaina apart in favor of Jaina and Zekk for a good bit and then the love triangle. Tahiri was completely ruined and made a mockery of her NJO self. We haven't seen Kyp do anything interesting since NJO. Everyone in NJO was interesting and could have held future storylines together. The post NJO next generation? Of course not. They're double the ages Luke and Leia were when their adventure began and still running second fiddle to the Big 3.
I don't think everyone in NJO was interesting. Maybe 20% of the characters, but they even managed to mis-characterize Luke Skywalker.
I'd say the perfect jump-off point was actually the conclusion of the JAT.
Really? At the end of Champions of the Force, Luke, Leia and Han are all still in their prime, and while there's a new class of a Jedi, they're hardly in a position to take over saving the galaxy on their own.
It's not even really a new generation - a lot of the new characters are older than the Big Three. Kyp is the only one who could genuinely be considered a new generation.
The problem is that the authors seemingly didn't give two ***** about the new characters (except for the occasional pet character) and therefore they are boringsauce without proper inner conflicts.
The problem was jumping around in time to avoid actually dealing with fall out.
There's about ten years inbetween NJO and LotF with only the DN trilogy in that timeframe. Why? So Ben can grow up a bit?
Think of all the adventures and character development that could have occurred involving the Jaina/Jacen generation in that time. Such a missed opportunity.
The time jump was a problem as well.
I actually liked the time jump. After decades of non-stop crises, the GFFA really deserved a bit of a break.
Agreed, but I think it might have worked better if it was accompanied by just another year or two or three of out-of-universe time jump as well. Unlike most, I actually liked the concept of Legacy of the Force, but they should have gotten rid of Dark Nest and done a bunch of smaller scale, not-GFFA-threatening stories, with the new generation, and for a little bit of a longer time period. Maybe something about Jaina and Rogue Squadron, Tahiri getting over her ordeals in the Vong war, Jacen's travels, or the redemption of the Vong on Sekot. Lots of possibilities before diving into the next epic NJO type of plotline that weren't properly taken advantage of, and would have added more weight to the eventual LotF books.
i'm going to assume that the GFFA name will be Retcon back to the New Republic in this new trilogy because truthfully the Federation has been done to death.
how is 5'10 a midget?
Those proportions are anything but correct. The artist is not very skilled.
Also, it was a joke.
A better question would be: How is the character in the background of that pic possibly 5'10? The proportions are the joke.
His left hand seems to be based on Warhammer 40k proportions/sense of anatomy.
1. Exactly. There's a new generation of Jedi Knights. It was a perfect opportunity for Luke and co. to fade into the background, leaving The New Heroes™ to handle threats...
1.A. ...that didnt need to be GALAXY SPANNING!!11!11!!!one!!1!1! in scale. Some of the best EU material was regional in scope.
2. Luke Skywalker: freakishly strong in the Force, phenomenal piloting skills, had a brush with the dark side. Kyp Durron: freakishly strong in the Force, phenomenal piloting skills, had a brush with the dark side.
3. The conclusion of the YJK series was another missed opportunity for the Big Three to step back and be mentors. Instead, we've gotten R.E.D...In Space!
I still like Kyp (as much as I read about him in NJO at least). He is a very different Jedi than Luke.