Discussion Official Sequel Trilogy / Legends / Expanded Universe discussion thread

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens - Spoilers Allowed' started by YoureNotJonesy, Nov 2, 2012.

  1. Jcuk Force Ghost

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    Very well said sir.
  2. kubricklynch Jedi Grand Master

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    Yeah, you really can't just say, "Oh, Chewie wasn't there." He got hit by a frickin moon.
  3. Jcuk Force Ghost

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    Ill be extremely surprised if Chewy isn't in E7. I remember someone posted (in a different thread) that Lucas is staunchly adverse to a main characters death being 'off screen'.
  4. fenton Force Ghost

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    There isn't EU in the comics because they decided to seperate the continuities right off the bat. With Star Wars it would involve changing the status quo and making the continuities seperate, but Marvel has shown you can have multi. continuities going at once and it works just fine.

    There isn't any reason they can't have the movies be 1 thing, continue the novel series (Aimed at older, more mature readers) continue on as they are now, AND introduce a cartoon series with tie in books and comics that cover the same time period but tell different stories aimed at a younger audience.
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  5. run_luke_run Force Ghost

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    Reading this thread is a bit like watching Groundhog Day. I think it repeats itself once every 34.76 pages.
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  6. I Are The Internets Chosen One

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    Yeah this is getting very repetitive.
  7. kubricklynch Jedi Grand Master

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    I can think of a reason. People read EU because it relates to the SW films. Once its stops doing that, sales will decline. This is inherently different than Marvel comics.

    Disney will only want to publish a certain amount of novels and comics, it would make much more financial sense to make them related to the ST, not the old EU. Disney wouldn't even continue TCW, why would they keep up the old EU, which I'm assuming reaches a smaller audience than TCW?
  8. Ryus Force Ghost

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    Really, I think it repeats itself more quickly then that, worse some people reply the exact same thing to everyone who disagrees with them. I swear I lol every time I hear "you missed the point" or "you just dont understand _______"... its like listening to pundents in a political debate making a huge bloody point that their one sacred idea was simply disagreed with and therefore the other person is a fool. [face_laugh]
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  9. The Hellhammer Grand Judicator of the New Film Territories

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    So wait, what'd we decide... is EU canon?



    [face_mischief]
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  10. fenton Force Ghost

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    Maybe, maybe not. Clearly with Marvel people didn't avoid the movies because they didn't tie in with the books. People don't avoid the TV show because it doesn't tie in with the movies or comics. People don't avoid the Ultimate books because they don't tie in with the 616 books etc...

    From what I've seen, heard, read, TCW was cancelled for two reasons. First, it was very expensive to produce, most so then most cartoon series, which mad eit less profitable. When Lucas was running things that didn't matter as much because it made enough money for him to keep doing it. But Disney has its own business models and numbers that shows have to hit to continue to exist. TCW simply wasn't profitable enough for Disney to continue it, thats also why Lucas animation was largely taken apart, the way they did business just didn't fit the Disney model/culture. Second, the wanted the Star Wars fans and franchise focused on the ST era and Luke< han and Leia to be the face of the franchise, not Anakin, Obi-wan and Padme as it really has been the last 10 years or so. I don't think it matters to them that the Luke people are focusing on has a son name Ben or not, so long as they are focused on Luke (just like it doens't matter if the Iron man in the comics is with Pepper or not, as long as its Iron man that kids like and is out there). Having a "movie" Luke, a "cartoon" Luke and a "novel" Luke doesn't matter as long as Luke is front and center.
  11. A Chorus of Disapproval New Films Riot Deterrent

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    Your placement of the decimal point is quite erroneous.
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  12. chris hayes Jedi Grand Master

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    Yes but Lucas gave the ok for Chewie to die in the EU so he should take responsibility for his stupid descision & leave Chewie out of EP7.......
  13. Jcuk Force Ghost

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    The grizzled forum vet speaks again. The Tom Highway of the the JCF
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  14. run_luke_run Force Ghost

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    I bite my tongue at you sir.
  15. Ryus Force Ghost

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    Yeah this thread gets derailed with the same boring conversation of will it be cannon or not too quickly. I'd like there to be a "How would you adapt the EU or pay homage to it" thread as well. That thread being reserved for comments that arent really meant to be debated, just people sharing their thoughts on what they'd like to see cause there was something in the EU they liked and wouldnt mind seeing adapted. While keeping this thread reserved for debating where the EU will actually fit in realtion to the ST and beyond.

    Not that those clearly cant be said here as well, but we all know as soon as someone does then on this thread someone will say thats stupid an derail it into a lets dump the EU all together debate again. The mentality here can be quite intimadating even to forum vets who feel this thread would just shoot down anything they said then derail the convo to what they want to discuss again...
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  16. A Chorus of Disapproval New Films Riot Deterrent

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    Yep. That's why the guy I quoted "liked" my post. If you're going to bait the hell out of everyone on here, at least do it in the proper context.
  17. Jcuk Force Ghost

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    Lucas has made a lot of stupid decisions he hasn't taken responsibility for so I don't think he will start with something he gave the nod for in the EU, do you?
  18. Jcuk Force Ghost

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    Jokes.
  19. A Chorus of Disapproval New Films Riot Deterrent

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    Same here. Sorry if the tone was offputting. While I have been here long enough to sorta "promote responsible posting", I am not nearly as self-important as my deceptive screenname gives off. I rather like you. Not in the Biblical sense.
  20. Jcuk Force Ghost

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    Not quite sure to what to make of the 'Biblical sense' comment' but, I must admit to being a silent fan of your observations. Probably because I could see myself being the same if Id had the stamina to persevere with the forum that long.
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  21. A Chorus of Disapproval New Films Riot Deterrent

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    My encounter with the forums has left me scarred and deformed, but I assure you my resolve has never been stronger.
  22. Jcuk Force Ghost

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    So I was right to begin with. You are INDEED the Tom Highway of the JCF.
  23. DarthBreezy Chosen One

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    E7 Forums - the New Galactic Empire... but who's our Jar Jar?
  24. Jcuk Force Ghost

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    Is that a new thread?
  25. SithLordDarthRichie London CR

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    Expense would make sense if almost all of Series 6 wasn't finished prior to the takeover. It would cost Disney nothing to produce and would make good money on DVD sales, so why not do it? Surely leaving a show hanging is worse than letting it be resolved with material that already exists.

    I agree with focus on the ST stuff, but given there would be only one year max left on TCW and there seems to be no other TV spin-off stuff related to the ST happening I don't see why cancelling it was right.

    Same with 1313, any Star Wars will make Disney money and again this would cost them next to nothing since it is largely complete from what I've heard.
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