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Discussion Official Sequel Trilogy / Legends / Expanded Universe discussion thread

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Sequel Trilogy (Released Films)' started by YoureNotJonesy, Nov 2, 2012.

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  1. RyanForder

    RyanForder Jedi Knight star 2

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    Does anyone think Darth Vader would play a part in the PT? i mean just anything to acknowledge him like his mask or sith legend or something
     
  2. hachijedi

    hachijedi Jedi Master star 4

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    I'm thinking Vader will get a Dream Sequence of some kind. There's no way they won't include him, he's too Iconic and they are bringing back the Big 3. I kinda don't want a force Ghost of Anakin. I just want Luke going through some trail again or having some dream and he talks to Vader.
     
  3. Bo916

    Bo916 Jedi Knight

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    So 30 years after OT. New trio of heroes. Anyone else think this could mean Jacen Jaina and Ben? We know that Jacen picks up some abilities that let him peer into the past. Perhaps through this method he is able to observe Vader? Maybe something Jacen does here causes a ripple into the past that splits the EU into an Alternate Universe. Thus letting it remain intact, along with a new movie continuuity.
     
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  4. Krueger

    Krueger Chosen One star 5

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    Someone really wants the EU to survive. Badly.
     
  5. Lurknomore

    Lurknomore Jedi Knight star 4

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    What if the new hero is Anakin reincarnated? Once he finds out, he could dedicate his life to do-gooding to rebuild his karma.
     
  6. Bo916

    Bo916 Jedi Knight

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    That apparent eh? Sorry. I've got nearly every single paperback EU novel. Don't want them all to be discarded
     
  7. hachijedi

    hachijedi Jedi Master star 4

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    You make some great points but the 30 Year window should give hope to EU fans. That's a lot of time that probably won't be covered in the next 3 episodes as far as what happen. I'm not saying EU is saved 100%, I'm just saying this timeline which we've been speculating for over a year and change is a good timeline cause a lot of EU covers 30 years after "Jedi".
     
  8. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Force Ghost star 6

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    I could see publishing doing something like that, and I'd be down with it because I actually dig crazy things like that, but there's no way this will be a part of the film. However, "Jacen's Retcon Time Travel Excellent Adventure" is a way to "keep" both timelines around for EU stuff. But it would, and should, be beholden to their prose or comics medium to sort itself out.
     
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  9. A Chorus of Disapproval

    A Chorus of Disapproval New Films Fearless Vampire Killer star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    While I am peripherally familiar with Jacen, I admittedly do not possess in depth knowledge of his character... is he similar to Franklin Richards from Fantastic Four in that being the child of "superpowered" beings made him so incredibly powerful that he can alter reality? Franklin can create entire alternate universes. Not sure if Jacen is already proven to have extreme abilities like that or if this current discussion is more wishful thinking.
     
  10. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Force Ghost star 6

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    I bailed on Jacen & Next gen around Vector Prime-ish time, he was just a kid to me, but I'm fairly certain he's done some time-traveling Force jazz so, y'know, The Force + time-travel + blah blah blah = EU canon closed off (but linked to the ST, peripherally, through EU medium.)

    I'm not expecting any of this in the movie but I'd be down with a EU product that sort of did a big Retcon fest that linked the two together.
     
  11. A Chorus of Disapproval

    A Chorus of Disapproval New Films Fearless Vampire Killer star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    Good to have clarity on that. I suppose the proposition above (while rather bonkers) is not completely out of the question.
     
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  12. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Force Ghost star 6

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    Honestly, if we go with the assumption that there will be completely different Next Gen offspring, even if they use the EU names, they add/subtract kids and ages (Luke has a boy named Ben who is 20, Leia has a single teenage daughter named Jania who is 17), if you want to somehow make the EU canon fit into the ST canon (which the EU has things covered up to 5 decades or so past ROTJ while the ST is set about 3 decades after ROTJ), you have to start doing insane bonkers ideas like that to cram it together.
     
  13. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Force Ghost star 7

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    They'll probably alter the flow-walking that it could change all of reality. They've changed it so much already, so what's one more change?
     
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  14. Ryus

    Ryus Jedi Master star 4

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    Or have all the EU having been a flow-walk... like in Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor but on steroids. More Star Warsy, less copying the Star Trek reboot that way... that way all the post RotJ EU is an offical force vision rather than an alternate timeline.
     
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  15. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Force Ghost star 6

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    While I do agree a Force-type vision is more Star Wars-y, what's more dramatically satisfying, "It was all a Force vision" and/or "It all happened but then time travel so not"? I like the latter if only because it's something that did exist at one time as opposed to just in Luke's head.

    Interestingly, I get the feeling the "new" EU will be much like the "DC New 52" wherein bits and pieces of old continuity are used but by authors on small, individual basis. Or kind of like how Marvel comics worked it's way back into the Star Wars canon.
     
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  16. RyanForder

    RyanForder Jedi Knight star 2

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    Thanks my point, he is too much of an iconic character just to forget about him, I hope your right and he gets at least a scene
     
  17. sluggo1313.

    sluggo1313. Jedi Knight star 4

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    It doesn't.


    They will all still be there for you to enjoy for years and years.


    Not really, but thats never stopped the EU from inventing powers and abilities and say "The Force".

    Maybe they can end the ST with Luke waking up in bed next Mara and he tells he about hte crazy dream he just had, then Ben comes in.......
     
  18. Fastback

    Fastback Jedi Padawan star 1

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    IMO 30yrs later with EU staying the way it is. The new trio should be Jacen, Jania and Ben. VII could have Jacen flow walking in the past showing his struggles with the death of Anakin and Chewie so it can be a little back story of what happen to them. The new trilogy will be about Jacen becoming the next Sith master due to his struggles dealing with the death of loved ones and the vision of the future he sees and wants to prevent. This future he see's will be the seed for the next trilogy who knows. This all comes from EU it makes sense to us who read it and those who have not well it will be and all new story no matter.
     
  19. I Are The Internets

    I Are The Internets Force Ghost star 8

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    But I'm guessing Mr. Abrams and friends will be throwing most of that stuff (thankfully) out the window.
     
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  20. T-R-

    T-R- Chosen One star 5

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    I think they should just label it as in universe holodramas as reference in Shadows of Mindor and leave it at that. Fictional accounts of real life people just like Patton or any other movie based on a real person.
     
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  21. T-R-

    T-R- Chosen One star 5

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    sorry for the double post
     
  22. I Are The Internets

    I Are The Internets Force Ghost star 8

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  23. T-R-

    T-R- Chosen One star 5

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  24. Darth Claire

    Darth Claire Force Ghost star 5

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  25. Pro Scoundrel

    Pro Scoundrel New Films Lawgiver & Casual Flyer star 5 Staff Member Manager

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    OFFICIAL FIRST LOOK AT NEW STAR WARS CANON!!!


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