Full Series Official Star Wars Rebels Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

Unfortunately, Ahsoka's Tano, it's not Ahsoka bashing. Dave made it clear that he favors Ahsoka above all.

 

I know how the themes of the tragedy of the clones and loss they felt aren't ones that you particularly care for, but the tragedy of Fives' death to me was that he was so close to blowing the lid off the conspiracy that was right under their noses. And that apparently no one else that we know of actually cared to investigate, though that may change with the re-introduction of the clone trio.

IMO, the reason the clones got the feel sorry for us vibe was because they were to a large extent expendable and forced into the situation even though they were manufactured for the purpose yet were sentient. By in large, most of the clones were happy with their lot of serving the Republic as soldiers as that is all they could see themselves doing. I do wonder though if had the series progressed further, as was the case with Fives, that some of the clones would have seen themselves as progressing beyond what they were designed to do. The clone that went AWOL and ended up actually having a family comes to mind. I don't know if I would have been a fan of exploring that direction particularly, but I wonder if they would have explored them essentially exploring their humanity. The clones were this franchise's version of Data from TNG. Designed to do be something, but making the choice to expand beyond the original programming.

 

Why wouldn't he? She is fraking awesome.

speaking of melodramatic....

 

I don't understand why emotional manipulation in story telling would be a bad thing. It's usually a sign of a good writer if he/she understands how an audience will react to a certain scene. It's not the same as being heavy-handed, like Filoni often was.

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We can't always expect such a "touching" moment like this.

 

Where does he say, "I think Ahsoka is by far the best character in the history of the SW saga, and I'm going to let it be known!!!!"

 

Actions speak louder than words.

 

They're on "a mission" in Dave's room.

https://twitter.com/dave_filoni/status/619568846567927809

 

Being forced to think and/or feel a certain way isn't the same as understanding the emotions of an audience. It's no coincidence that the show's final seasons veered toward a more anti-Jedi route, positioning them as easily manipulated warlords that used innocent whiny clones at their expense. Perfect Ahsoka Tano wanted nothing to do with that.

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I Ahsoka bashed to make my point clear

 

Well Ashoka is a big hit naturally on her own, but that said perhaps a reason Filoni is so close to the character(aside from creating her) is that they(Disney/Lucasfilm) want to tap into the female fan base which was part've the reason for her creation in part by Filoni and Lucas. So there is that element of the Tano character being used as a tool to that means to integrate more female fans more so now with J.J. Abrams pushing his diversity politics into the brand(there was a news article recently about that), not that SW ever needed politicization imo, but there is a political agenda involved I think.

Am sure if the storyline calls for they'd end up killing a lot of our favorite characters, Luke, Chewie and Han are rumored to be kiilled off every so often, so if characters like that can go then am sure Tano would be at some point as well. Its doubtful Filoni is ruling Lucasfilm as an Al Capone but am sure he's got some pull.

 

I would have liked to see a group of heroes that are not force sensitive. Rebels would have been better by showing that you don't have to be genetically lucky to change the galaxy.

If Filoni can admit that he has a bias, then there is hope. I just hope it doesn't turn out like Bruce Timm where he let his Batman obsession get in the way. He made the other characters in Justice League/JLU look worse so Batman would seem better by comparison.

I have no problem with her giving Vader a fight, but the only way it should end is with Vader showing no mercy or remorse when he kills her. Vader has been a wuss for too long, and I'm glad Disney Lucasfilm has made an effort to make give him the badass reputation back.

 

If you feel an emotional reaction when you watch a scene, there is no way to know if it wasn't put there by the author for this very reason. And it doesn't matter whether it is emotional manipulation or not as long as it works.

The real problem with Filoni is his heavy-handedness. Subtelty is not his thing.

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Your real beef is not "emotional manipulation" which is just a term for "being a writer" lol, your problem is the direction the story was going, Dave's heavy-handedness and story messages.

A better writer will be more subtle in their "emotional manipulation".

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So much hate...

 

In this forum, more like.

How the hell did it get that Lit is actually more even-handed when it comes to talking about both TCW and Rebels these days?

 

If that happens, you'll be hearing on the news about a 29 year old male from the UK riding a NASA probe into the Sun.

 

Being a writer =/= force people to think a certain way through manipulation. It's unfair to the audiences who form their own subjective understandings. Good writers keep it neutral. Dave waved his hands around like a wild child.

"Anti-Jedi, pro-clone, Ahsoka is an innocent perfect angel who saw through the Jedi lies"

No thanks, Davey.

 

Would Kal Skirata and Darman approve of that belief?

 

It's too bad Dave scared off Karen Traviss back in 2009. We could've asked her.

 

Umm… Rouge One.