Full Series Official Star Wars Rebels Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

I would end up grovelling and begging in front of Sidious too if he were about to fry my ass. Besides, the fact that Maul survived through his sheer hatred of Obi-Wan just makes him all the more BA.

 

So Dave Filoni and the guy who ran Young Justice, my other favorite show, are collaborating on a Dark Times story that probably will act as a continuation to The Clone Wars? **** YEAH!

 

As Obi-Wan said in ESB: "You do not yet know that."

It still has to be confirmed.

 

Come on! Let me have my dreams!

 

I wouldn't mind the post-RotJ being steamrolled. There is some incredibility awful stuff in it.

As for the hate for Thrawn and Mara Jade, why? Thrawn was mostly seen in the books from Pellaeon's POV. He was bitter. He hated Vader and why not? Vader walked all over the chain of command and regularly killed Imperial officers. And he was in theory the commander at Endor (though he was busy fighting Luke), a battle that made the past 20+ years of Pellaeon's service in the Imperial Navy pointless. There was no reason for him to like Vader. Thrawn was in may ways the anti-Vader.

But Thrawn had to be powerful enough to cause the main characters and the New Republic problems. Seriously, most of the other EU Villains are jokes. They were weak and easily cased off after the book was over.

Mara Jade is equally a strong, capable character. Why? Because you need someone that can keep up with Luke, Han and Leia. Someone that, depending on the plot, can fill in for one of them. Mara Jade isn't so badass that she didn't need Luke's help. Often more then he needed her's. But then again, do you want the weak hanger-ons females that other EU authors tired to pair Luke with? Would you prefer Luke to get with someone like Calista Ming? Yeah, Mara's abilities seem to be over the top sometimes, but you have to remember the company she's expected to keep. What do you people want?

Don't get me wrong, as much as I like both characters, Timothy Zahn has managed to annoy me at least once with both of them in the various works that portray them.

To me there isn't much good in the EU starting with Dark Empire. Palpatine Clones, Uber-weapons, Uber-Jedi (which haven't been supported by any other material), endless "kidnap the Solo kids" plots, weak or just weird villains. And I for one don't think the NJO series improved it much. It just spent most of it's time destroying everything that came before to expunge everything published by Bantam books. Seriously, almost every book had the following plot..."Vong show up, main characters Du Jour fight them, Vong destroy planet". Wash, rinse, repeat. They managed to keep in up for 21 books. Amazing.

Again, the Thrawn trilogy would need a face lift and some changes to fit the post-Ep I Star Wars Universe and you could mix in plot points and characters from the X-Wing series and maybe a few other things, but a lot of the rest can go. And those who hate Thrawn/Jade, but love the NJO, why? They were OP because the Uber-Jedi that came out of the post-Dark Empire EU. Those same Uber-Jedi have no basis in the movies, nor have I seen much of the few episodes of TCW to indicate they would/should be that powerful.

 

I'd imagine in the new movies the kids (if there are going to be kids) will all be grown so no having to deal with kidnapping plots. We'll see when the television series takes place. Even though it does make sense that Palpatine would clone himself you would think the EU writers could have come up with better main villians than just reusing the same villian from the movies.

 

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I just used the Wayback machine on archive.org to confirm that the blog entry is not really from 2009. Check out the following archived page from back then:

http://web.archive.org/web/20090522165124/http://starwarsblog.starwars.com/

You can compare it to the following current page where you can see that the blog entry was snuck in with the rest:

http://starwarsblog.starwars.com/index.php/page/122/

Now the question is if the date was just random to make the page less obvious as a clue, or if May 20th is significant. Also, why 2009?

 

Star Trek 2009 came out in May 8th 2009. Connection? I don't know.

Then maybe it is interesting to look at the product that came out in May 20th 2009:
Star Wars Vector. Hm, Celeste Morne in the new series? That would be hokey even for TCW.

On the blog with the hint the other entries of May 20 are full with Darth Vader and the new Star Trek. Also the Trek entry has something about "channeling Han Solo". Omg. Very interesting that the hint was put next to these entries.

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If Luke is such a problem to keep up with maybe the writing of Luke should be closer examined. You can't really balance a Gary Stu with a Mary Sue.

 

hmm Vader steps into what the Grevious role? Tarkin reprises his role as does Palps.

Ashoka with Lux, Saw, Ventress, and Bo Katan doing most of the action scenes? I mean the Onderan Rebel symbol certainly looks similar to the Rebel Alliance.

Well Greg being part of the project is certainly interesting, he is very good at detailed universe building, continuity and plotting.

 

In case anyone is interested StarWars.com has a link to a video announcing "Star Wars: Rebels" but at the time of posting they've kept the video listed as private.

 

I hope we get a young Thrawn in SW:R.

 

Good......about time they explored the Dark Times era.

 

I think people can finally forgive Disney for cancelling TCW as this show will pretty much be a continuation of TCW. Will be interesting to see what they choose to do with Ahsoka's character.

 

Because as we all know, the most important factor in whether they use certain characters or don't is: "Do I like them?" Not "Would it be logical, or is there anything unresolved?"

Ugh, I'm sorry to be back here, arguing again. News always draws me in, and I always get baited. Just... ignore me. For the record, anakinfan, you are definitely a smart, grown-up, valuable person, despite your belligerence on certain... orange, dual-wielding, head-tailed issues.

But hear me out: There's plenty of narrative precedent for Ahsoka showing up, regardless of who likes her or doesn't. They planted tons of seeds in TCW about her developing an independent idealism, so to think that she would just lie dormant as an Imperial citizen is pretty ridiculous. Add to that the fact that she is a lead character in SW canon (in comics and books as well as television), and I think there's more logical reasoning in support of her showing up again than, say, Obi-Wan, whose involvement in galactic events between III and VI is made pretty explicit (specifically, zero, if Leia's famous holorecording isn't retconned).

Can we not at least agree on that? All preference aside?

And I'm not saying I wouldn't like to see Obi... but I'd like to see both of them. I don't want leads of any sort, personally.

 

Hmmm... Lets play nice guys. I changed my mind. Renaming this thread,

 

Oh, ha, couldn't find the thread for a sec. OK.

Honestly, I'm not trying to start anything. I'm just arguing for the point that for the ongoing Star Wars TV series (arguably, the one all-encompassing entry into the franchise for the era in which it takes place, seeing as it doesn't have the same direct focus as novels, comics, or even films), main characters who are around should make appearances, like 'em or not.

I get that it's a big difference of attitude, but I guess I ask it from the perspective of: if you were writing the show, and it was your job to please fans in general... not just you... what would you do?

 

Ahsoka IMO has more milage when it comes to stories then Obi-Wan does.

Yeah, Kenobi has Owen/Qui-Gon issues that can be expanded on, but that isn't very interesting IMO. Tano at least has an unresolved fate and isn't protected by being in ANH like Obi-Wan is. Neither should be lead characters, but I wouldn't be upset if Ahsoka got an arc to herself or was a supporting character.

 

Don't get me wrong, I mean, I wrote a novel, and it's pretty uncompromisingly my own... but writing independently is very different from collaborating in a writer's room for a big, established franchise. Making good use of the building blocks already at your disposal is a huge factor in the continued success of something like this.

I just don't think any creative process is helped by turning it into a political tug-of-war; vouching for or against this character or that because of how they align or don't align with your preferences seems unnecessary in such a huge universe. At worst, it just means you'll dislike a few episodes, which is how it is for any viewer anyway. Personally, I think if a fan wants something worthwhile to lobby for, it should be kept to the practical realm: lobby for LFA obtaining (and maintaining) a damn good writing team... not to whip up a fervor for or against some character, who is only as good or bad as their writing anyway.

Perhaps you can only speak for you, but it's the writers' job to speak to everyone, so it's obviously not an impossible task, and I don't think one can really deny that concept its virtue.

 

I don't like watching Pablo Hidalgo walk towards the camera. It's very unsettling.

 

If we see Vader in this show then i'll be a happy camper

 

He'll be crying over the loss of Ahsoka.