Full Series Official Star Wars Rebels Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

And Gascon narrating

 

I'm sick of all this discussion about how old the protagonists should be.

 

What else do you want to talk about then?

 

Connecting the ROTS to ANH! Development of OT tech, for example.

 

I could certainly go for that. He was easily the strongest character to come out of that story arc, and David Kaye is a spectacular actor.

 

I doubt there's even a hit list. The Jedi Order's broken. They're done. Some no-name knight or padawan isn't gonna be able to do anything against them if Obi-Wan or Yoda couldn't even finish the job. And there's TRILLIONS or more people to go thru, to find a few hundred masters/knights/padawans/younglings that escaped Order 66 and the Temple attack. Palpatine's probably only worried about two Jedi: Obi-Wan & Yoda. If the Empire stumbles across a Jedi, they'll probably kill/capture them (or try to), but all a Jedi's gotta do, really, is keep Force-use to a minimum in general, avoid Vader & the Emperor if they ever visit the world that Jedi's hiding on, and not have a lightsaber on or around their person if they ever pass thru an Imp checkpoint or something, and not try to play superhero at any sign of injustice as the Empire grows more & more totalitarian.

Oh, and not wear obvious Jedi clothes unless you happen to live on a world like Tatooine where EVERYONE kinda dresses like a slovenly Jedi.

 

There's definitely a Jedi hit list, as Purge, Dark Times, and Imperial Commando can all attest to. It's pretty much exactly as Skaddix put it, too, with Council members and Masters being kill-on-sight targets, Knights as capture or kill depending on circumstance, and Padawans and Service Corps members registered as capture for interrogation if at all possible. All known fugitive Jedi had Imperial bounties put out on their head, and though they had other duties, Vader and the 501st were well known as Jedi hunters, to the point that the Imperial Commando Special Unit was formed as a special ops unit within the 501st from the Republic's commandos and ARC troopers, specifically tasked with the tracking and killing of Jedi among other dissidents.

 

Hope we get some episodes that solely focus on the 501st

 

We should see a lot of them

 

I agree

 

Okay, even WITH a hit list... how are they gonna find 'em? The galaxy is a BIG place. Vader's one guy. The 501st are a small unit, compared with galactic populations. The Empire doesn't cover every system, and even when they DO have a presence in a system, it can be pretty minimal (like Tatooine, and that was only MANY years later). And Imperial bounties aren't of much use if they don't match the visual descriptions 100%--especially when there's probably thousands or millions of people that are basically doppelgängers of a given Jedi. Obi-Wan was an old man in ANH, but might still have matched descriptions of Kenobi, yet the sandtroopers didn't say "Hey, it's Obi-Wan Kenobi! BLAST HIM!" A bit of a changed appearance, no saber, new occupation & identity... it's far more reasonable to assume many Jedi survived the dark times, albeit no longer as Jedi, than it is that Vader--the guy who couldn't even sense Leia's latent Force power RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM nor Obi-Wan's presence on Tatooine, the world he was orbiting--could somehow track down any & every former Jedi or Jedi student in the entire galaxy... except, of course, the only two who ever really mattered: the two who knew about the twins, and that the twins were key to defeating the Sith.

I don't put much weight on the "hunt down & kill every Jedi" idea anymore. Purge told us the remaining Jedi were unimportant to Palpatine, the key thing was destroying the Order itself. That makes the most logical sense. No more central power base for the Jedi... they're scared to gather in numbers... living in fear... helpless against the might of the Empire. They're broken. THAT is the important thing.

 

THANK YOU. Some people have no sense of hyperbole.

 

Maybe not, but Mia's post could serve as a great sort of primer for those who didn't know, or wanted to learn a little more. She's pretty great like that.

 

This would be very cool to see at some point. I got the feeling that Vader wanted to utilize a BDZ on the rebel base at Hoth, but was frustrated by the fact that the rebels detected the Imperial fleet early enough to raise the shields, forcing the Empire to launch a ground assault. Thus, I think we should see a contrast to this by showing the Empire actually annihilating a rebel base from orbit with a swift and decisive bombardment.

Speaking of which, I think we should see more of the Imperial admirals and officers that showed up in the OT in some major or semi-major roles: Yularen, Motti, Ozzel, Piett, Needa, etc. They can serve as effective villains under the command of Vader and the Emperor. Just as Yularen, a minor character with no speaking role in ANH, received a major role in TCW, we can see one or more of these Imperial officers take the spotlight in Rebels.

 

With Vader becoming increasingly frustrated with the officers that he ends up choking.

 

The key thing is that it's a situation with two sides. On the one hand, neither the Empire or its Sith masters are ever truly going to let the remaining Jedi live in peace. No, they're not exactly panicked by the thought of two hundred Jedi spread amongst the stars in hiding, but at the same time, it's foolish to think that they don't still consider every Jedi a potential threat of some degree. History has shown that even one Jedi can still prove to be an enormous thorn in the side of an enemy regime, even in an insurgent capacity. Logically, they're going to engage in a certain amount of risk management and move against those threats as they can. The pursuit of these Jedi fugitives by bounty hunters, the Imp Com Special Unit, the 501st and the Imperial military in general, and the Inquisitorious are all strong, intelligent moves for the Empire to make. And beyond the Jedi, they also have to reign in other Force-using sects, as well as indigenous Force-sensitive populations like those of Haruun Kal and Iktotch, to ensure that fresh opposition to Sith rule doesn't rise from those ranks. At the same time, there's also simply the way of the Sith: every Jedi is an enemy because they are Jedi, and remain so until they are turned or until they are dead.

Now on the other hand, even with all of these measures, there's still no certainty that the Empire's net will be cast wide enough, or that their efforts will be precise enough to eliminate every Jedi. The Coruscant-based Whiplash organization makes a point of finding, evacuating, and resettling Jedi fugitives. The Antarian Rangers are sworn allies to the Order, who have no problem harboring escaped Jedi, and the Altisian Jedi sect is known to have smuggled Jedi younglings to safety on Belsalvis, while keeping its own members off the Empire's radar by utilizing a mobile academy ship and masquerading as members of the galaxy's general populous. The Mandalorians of Clan Skirata have shown a willingness to aid Jedi fugitives as well as clone deserters in conjunction with the Altisian order, and even harbored a few among them on Mandalore. Jedi Master K'Kruhk was able to rescue an entire group of younglings not unlike the group seen in TCW, getting them far from the Empire's reach. And that's not even going into the feats of survival shown by survivors on an individual level.

There's so much material to be used on both sides. Jedi are going to be heavily under pressure during this period, to say nothing of the galaxy's other Force-users, but at the same time, there's also numerous safe havens and support organizations that can provide a balance to the seemingly endless reach of the Empire.

Thank you. That's basically all I was trying to do. Set the record straight, and mention that there's a lot of interesting angles already in play that support the potential for an abundance of story options for Rebels.

 

Your going to try to get most of them in the time directly after the takeover but yeah at a certain point u are mostly relying on stupidity to get collars. Although who knows enough oppression and brutality will probably let u smoke out quite a few Jedi.

 

Not really, unless those Jedi are monumentally stupid.

 

It'll be interesting to see what the plots of Rebels actually will be. Band of teenager was it? Teenage Jedi on the run or monumentally stupid teenage Jedi who get smoked out by the oppression and brutality that attempt to rescue people.

 

...or maybe the band of teenagers aren't Jedi at all.

 

It could be teenage non-Jedi.

Edit: Ninja'd by Toonimator.

Or a band of teens most of which are not Jedi but a few of which are. Maybe only one.

Also, I think that, for all that people want to see the purge, and there is definitely a place for that... but if half of Rebels consists of "Vader and the 501st go Jedi-killing on planet X", "Vader and the 501st go Jedi-killing on planet Y", "Vader and the 501st go Jedi-killing on planet Z", "Vader and the 501st go Jedi-killing on planet N"... it would get tired fast. Show the purge by all means, but don't overdo it.

 

Clearly this is all speculation at this point, we've almost no factual information to base these posts on yet. However quite a few hints have been thrown out about the Young Jedi kids and 'band of teenagers' has a very famliar, tropy ring to it. They may very well be Onderon's Rebels or a new group of regular teens.

 

Wasn't Vader obsessed with finding Obi-Wan for the first years of the Empire so it might make sense if Vader is a prominent character to be hunting down Jedi and actually finding some in Rebels for a while? And he eventually stopped looking due to Palpatine?

I could be wrong on that...

 

I think ur right about that

 

Yeah good point. Besides hunting Jedis should get you the best results in the first few years. After that your getting lucky.