Clone Wars Official "The Clone Wars" Series Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV' started by RevantheJediMaster, Jul 15, 2005.

  1. anakinfansince1983 Chosen One

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    Apparently, pretty well, as TCW ended seven months ago and I'm selling two Maul books at my book fair this week.

    Obi-Wan's performance in Revival was the only redeeming quality in that episode, and I admit to being a lot more satisfied with Maul's return than I was at its announcement.

    As far as lightsaber duels, there is so much more involved than who is the most powerful Force user, the circumstances of the fight and the physical and emotional state of the combatants, for example. Anakin is supposed to have such a high midichlorian count but he gets his ass kicked in fights because he's impulsive and egotistical.

    And in TCW, a character is more likely to win a duel if the writers like him or her.
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  2. hlc88 Force Ghost

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    So I got my Season 5 blu-ray today. Having gone through the special features... or rather the Jedi Temple archives... The original ending of The Wrong Jedi was...

    .... Ahsoka leaving anyway.

    We know that Matt and Ashley recorded some new dialogue for The Wrong Jedi last December and it was thought that was when the decision was made for Ahsoka to leave the Order and up till that point she was staying but the original ending was Ahsoka being offered a place back in the Order by the Jedi Council on the steps of the Jedi Temple. She refuses her braid and walks away with them all looking on. The change that was added was that refusal scene was moved to the Council Chambers and then Anakin and Ahsoka got a good bye scene which wasn't part of the ending. That is what they recorded and added in late in the day when that episode was probably already completed. So Ahsoka was always going to leave at the end of that arc.



    To be fair, I think Obi-Wan had a good excuse with his poor performance in Revenge. He went to Raydonia expecting to face just Maul. He was surprised by Savage suddenly appearing, Maul came up behind him and at the same time he's trying to keep an eye on both of them. I can understand why he was very quickly overwhelmed there. Then he spent a while being thrown around like a rag doll and beaten up by Maul. He was probably exhausted/weak and to suddenly be in a very intensive duel with a Sith who hated his guts and had taken his time to beat him down... In my view his poor performance was down to those factors.

    Revival, on the otherhand, he was at the top of his game. Knew what to expect and was prepared for both brothers.
  3. anakinfansince1983 Chosen One

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    Ye gods. So they added in the one segment that made me cry--Ahsoka folding Anakin's fingers over her braid--but I would have hated it anyway.
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  4. Darth Valkyrus Force Ghost

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    I can't remember did she fold his right or left hand over the braid?

    You could read some kinda symbolism into it depending on which it was. Did she fold his real hand over her braid, or his machine hand?
  5. hlc88 Force Ghost

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    No, that bit was already in the original version, just a change of location. The added bit was the Anakin-Ahsoka talk outside the Temple.
  6. KenobiSkywalker Force Ghost

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    It was his mechanical hand.
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  7. anakinfansince1983 Chosen One

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    I didn't even pay attention. I'm not much for symbolism, and she could have tucked it inside his shirt and it still would have pissed me off.
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  8. SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus

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    +1

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  9. Mzukiller Jedi Master

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    Maul outdoing Sidious.

    No.
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  10. Dark Lord Tarkas Force Ghost

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    Exactly. Ventress lasts against Obi-Wan, fights between Force-users are like that unless the levels of power are very far apart.
  11. SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus

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    Much appreciated.
    Ditto. I want to see that fully animated!
  12. Sannom Jedi Grand Master

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    Well, that second feat was done in a state of rage after Obi-Wan mutilated Savage, it's not unheard of in the series to have dark-siders flare up when angry. The ship was really impressive though. Especially since he couldn't walk.

    I have a theory about the fight in "Revival" : those legs just didn't fit Maul. At all. It made him too tall, too different from what he was before and it unbalanced him. The brothers were also way over-confident, and I'm not sure that those narrow tunnels were the best environment for those giants.

    As for Maul and Savage resisting Sidious' lightning : is it so surprising? Both Palpatine and Dooku were rather generous with the lightning when training their apprentice, I guess it would make sense that those two can take the pain.
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  13. Circular Logic SWTV Interview Host

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    That's a interesting theory. I'll buy it. As for the ability to resist Sidious' lightning; well, we know Maul was able to resist the Force lightning from the Nighsister Mighella before killing her:
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    Also, there's a new Dave Filoni interview in the OS. He has some interesting things to say regarding Season 5. You can check it out here.
  14. anakinfansince1983 Chosen One

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    Interesting. One thing that sticks out is his comparison of the younglings arc to 80s kids' movies like The Goonies or ET.

    I ended up liking that arc far more than I expected. IMO the 80s were the best time ever for movies, and I wouldn't say the younglings arc is that good, but I can see where Filoni is coming from as far as the comparison.
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  15. 07jonesj Force Ghost

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    The youngling arc was surprisingly dark too. I enjoyed it, immensely, in fact, but I don't think I could have watched an entire show featuring them.

    Also, David Tennant as Hu-Yang! :D
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  16. mattman8907 Jedi Grand Master

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    anybody know if revival was put in it's rightful spot in between point of no return and Eminence?
  17. hlc88 Force Ghost

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    Yes it was for the blu-ray release.

    They actually listened to fans on that one! Or they just read it here and took notice of what we were saying :p

    But yes Revival is on Disc 2 and is after Point of No Return and before Eminence.
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  18. mattman8907 Jedi Grand Master

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    but i don't own a blu ray player.
  19. Sannom Jedi Grand Master

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    EDIT : nevermind.

    Since you haven't mentioned it, I guess that the animatic we've seen earlier wasn't restored in "The Lawless"?
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  20. SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus

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    I wonder if Maul's upper body can handle self-generation of Sith lightning? Can he control it? Or, is he limited by the metal of his lower half? He may have less mass than Vader, but he doesn't have metal where the end of his limbs used to be.
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  21. hlc88 Force Ghost

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    Buy one????

    I don't know if they changed it for the DVD release as well but I assume if they changed it on the blu-ray release then it will be on the DVD release.


    No it wasn't restored in "The Lawless". Most of the stuff I've mentioned in the blu-ray thread is stuff that is special features only, not finished or added in to the final episodes. A shame because I thought there was a lot of stuff they could have done.
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  22. Seerow SWTV★Manager

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    They should have finished a bunch of the extra stuff for the Maul/Mando arc and edited it into a long movie. Its right up there with Umbara for arcs that should be edited into movie versions.
  23. SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus

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    THIS.
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  24. hlc88 Force Ghost

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    This ^^^

    That would have been an awesome move to do. I'd say maybe one day they could do that but I doubt they would now that they are wrapping up TCW.
  25. Darth Valkyrus Force Ghost

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    It's interesting that Maul's legs keep functioning after a dose of Force-lightning from Sidious, while Vader's life support system was fried.

    Maybe Vader's setup was more vulnerable or more sensitive or something.

    Actually I'm surprised no Jedi ever tried killing Vader by Force-crushing his chest electronics package. Or just tossing one of those EMP grenades at him that they frequently used against droids during the Clone Wars.