Where exactly did I say that those who do not "cite" book passages are wrong, or that those who do are automatically right? I never said that. In addition, I meant that the book passages that Iron_lord posted were the ones that proved the existence of an ethical issue. OK. apparently I am unable to get my message across to you. I do NOT excuse the Senate or Palpatine for the use of the clone army. Expecting them to do it is one thing, not condemning them for their actions is another. The former does not lead to the latter. Huh...forgot about that. Still, though, I find it hard to believe that an act such painful and horrendous as this is accepted in the GFFA. OK then. That is your opinion and I respect it. In my opinion, the fault is shared between those who allowed it's use and those who did not protest about the continuation of its use for nearly 4 years. But, I have repeated this over and over again in previous posts. I always found it reasonable for people to try and find faults (regardless of whether those are true or not) in people that are as unrealistically portrayed as the Jedi. The reason I am far more interested in the Sith, is because I find them much more down to earth than the Jedi. I may be called a cynic for this, but IRL, the world hardly consists of any people that have such high moral values like the Jedi do. That tone of unrealism is further enhanced by their portrayal in the movies, as well as some episodes of TWC. As you argued that Filoni deliberately smeared the Jedi in the last episodes of Season 5, I believe that GL has deliberately vilified the Sith in every movie and lionized the Jedi. All because the average viewer wants to see the "good guy" win and the "bad guy" to lose, in such a simplified way, so that he/she does not feel any remorse towards the "bad guy". Thankfully, Star Wars books, comics and videogames have not followed this course of action and have shown more reasonable and less emotionless "villains", as well as more realistic "heroes".