Clone Wars Official "The Clone Wars" Series Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV' started by RevantheJediMaster, Jul 15, 2005.

  1. hlc88 Force Ghost

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    I don't see how you can hate a show when you have barely even watched it and your opinion relies solely on what you've heard about it rather then giving it a chance and forming your own opinion about it without being clouded by other people's judgements. [face_dunno]
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  2. Seerow SWTV★Mod

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    Ok, lets stop ganging up on Zeta just a little bit here.
  3. Zeta1127 Force Ghost

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    These are my judgements based on my perceptions of what happens in the show. Just because I don't accept TCW as the story of the Clone Wars doesn't mean I am blind to what it is doing. I don't want to join the viewership of a show that fundamentally bugs me by dramatically altering the Clone Wars. I simply can't stand the dramatic timeline shift, because continuity is everything to me, because there is nothing intact about a dramatic timeline shift that generally ruins the original meaning of the works that have been moved.

    Supply Lines had a CR90 corvette that was the Tantive IV, which was supposed to be a CR70 corvette at the time, leading to the Sundered Heart becoming the ship in RotS.
  4. Garth Maul Manager Emeritus

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    I get the continuity arguments. We had plenty of those when the TCW film and S1 came out.

    Zeta - I honestly just consider TCW to be an alt-timeline for SW at this point.

    It's a shame you can't get into it with that kind of mentality, because there are some great episodes there to be viewed.

    If you're dead set against watching it, that's your call, it's just too bad a wrong model of corvette ruins the experience for you.
  5. Seerow SWTV★Mod

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    What is the significants, the damage to the story done by having the Tantive IV not being the same ship in ROTS? I'm sorry, I just can't relate to pushing a show away because a vehicle isn't correct. I hope I'm understanding you correctly @Zeta1127.

    Really nostalgia and what came first isn't everything. Its not always objectively better.
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  6. Zeta1127 Force Ghost

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    Its not one thing, its everything, Anakin being knighted so early and having a Padawan, the numerous duels between Anakin and Dooku, the portrayal of the CIS, no more Tantive IV in RotS, Darth Maul's return, and so many other things, to the point I can't truly envision it as Star Wars. Yeah, I believe its an alternate timeline that I simply don't care about.
  7. Seerow SWTV★Mod

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    Let me just add to my post that part of the fun is watching the new stuff and figuring out how it fall fits together with itself and the old stuff. Isn't that right? Well its your call and that fine. Life is beautiful.
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  8. Jango_Fett21 Force Ghost

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    You're ultimately entitled to your own opinions, but I do find it sad that you're basing those opinions on second-hand information rather than first-hand experience.
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  9. Barriss_Coffee Chosen One

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    @Zeta1127: I absolutely love the EU, and I love TCW. I think they work together, minus a few little quirks here and there. One obscure character death or a planet's erratic orbit aren't going to wreck my day. TCW has borrowed a heck of a lot more from the EU than it's ruined.
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  10. Seerow SWTV★Mod

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    My offer still stands. =b
  11. cwustudent Force Ghost

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    If its free, why not! I'm quite thankful for Umbara: without that arc, I may not have realized how significant clones are and how unique each one is. I would really like Boba to meet Rex one day. I'd wager, Rex is beginning to look like Jango did, as Boba would remember him. And I'm sure there are things Boba would like to say to his father, like how much he misses him.
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  12. Legolas Skywalker Force Ghost

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    Every Clone looks like Jango :p
  13. cwustudent Force Ghost

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    True. Let me put it this way: I'll admit, I don't know how old Jango was, when he died or when he received Boba. But Rex and clones his age are beginning to look like the man that Boba remembers. (For instance, I don't have a mental image of my parents before I was born.) That will be quite jarring for Boba, seeing an entire army of men that look like his father.
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    Glad you enjoyed Umbara. It gave alot of development and much needed personality to the clones. Rex really came into his own as a character finally moving past and using the lessons of "The Deserter". It also did wonders for Fives, Tup, and Jesse. You aren't the only one who grew to like them thanks to Umbara. I know @Dark Lord Tarkas had a similar experience to yours. It could be interesting for Rex to meet Boba.
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  15. KenobiSkywalker Force Ghost

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    I haven't gotten to Umbara yet. I better get to it!
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  16. rumblewagon Jedi Grand Master

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    I did not think it was even possible to have not seen the Umbara arc.
  17. Seerow SWTV★Mod

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    This looks like the perfect time for some shameless self promotion. <.<;
    umbara video (open)

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  18. Jango_Fett21 Force Ghost

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    Just when I thought I couldn't love George Lucas and his use of symmetry any more than I already do, I come across one of the best uses of 'retroactive symmetry' that I think I've ever seen: the scene in the middle of Destroy Malevolence when Grievous ambushes Obi-Wan just as the latter goes to try and destroy the Malevolence's hyperdrive, which just so happens to be an exact replica of the scene in Revenge of the Sith where Obi-Wan confronts Grievous on Utapau. I totally wasn't expecting the scene in RotS to, chronologically, be a 'repeat', but am absolutely giddy that it is, because, with the Destroy Malevolence scene having chronologically preceded it, the RotS scene is cast in an entirely new context that ends up making it even more awesome than it already was.

    Another thing I like about TCW besides the above-mentioned retroactive symmetry? The use of dialogue that sounds ridiculous, but actually ends up working (which is another staple of the SW franchise); the first example I've come across (thus far, anyway) is the exchange between Anakin and Padme on-board the Malevolence before he 'hotwires the ship to give Grievous a little surprise': "Ever since I've known you you've been playing with droids." (Padme) "I used to put them together; now I just take them apart." (Anakin)

    The lines are extremely cheesy, but what makes them work, at least for me, is the dead-pan, matter-of-fact way in which the voice actors for Anakin and Padme deliver them. The exchange is a perfect encapsulation of the characters' relationship and is actually reminiscent of some of the banter - minus the rather overt antagonism - that their daughter Leia will end up trading with her 'scoundrel' paramour Han years and years down the line.
  19. Garth Maul Manager Emeritus

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    Yeah they do a good job mirroring the cheesy lines for sure.

    Still think Anakin and Padme had less chemistry and less personality than Han and Leia.
  20. Jango_Fett21 Force Ghost

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    ^ I'm not sure I agree with that sentiment, but can understand where you're coming from. I mentioned the 'droids' exchange already, but there was another line of dialogue from Destroy Malevolence that I got a kick out of: Anakin's "The things you do to get me alone." There is a bit of a Han Solo element to Anakin in both AotC and RotS that there just wasn't time to explore in great depth but that, thankfully, gets its full due in The Clone Wars and is, at least IMO, 100% evident in that above-mentioned line and Matt Lanter's delivery of it.

    Speaking of Lanter, I like him and his portrayal of Anakin, although there's a part of me that wishes he would've followed the lead of some of the other voice actors and tried to mimic Hayden Christensen's voice mire closely.
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  21. Garth Maul Manager Emeritus

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    Disagree - the fan base seems to be divided on this, but I actually like Lanter's portrayal the best. :)

    Hayden was IMHO, simply too wooden in his delivery.
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  22. Dan_Grievous_Tikkes_Fan Force Ghost

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    All portrayals of Anakin have sucked so far. But Anakin so who cares! :D
  23. Senator Kelberry Force Ghost

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    If the choice is between Matt and Hayden, I'll take Matt every time. He's more believable to me as Anakin.
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  24. KenobiSkywalker Force Ghost

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    I saw it air, but that was far enough back that I don't remember much about it. :(
  25. Dan_Grievous_Tikkes_Fan Force Ghost

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    Because it is not that good of an arc.