Clone Wars Official "The Clone Wars" Series Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV' started by RevantheJediMaster, Jul 15, 2005.

  1. Robimus Force Ghost

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  2. Dan_Grievous_Tikkes_Fan Force Ghost

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    The more I see people obsess and hype the Maul arc, the more I am preparing myself to be let down by it.

    I do not get the hype... But it is got Mandos and Maul and Bounty Hunters so I kinda see where the "overrated" comes from.
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  3. Robimus Force Ghost

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    Last season had a Maul arc.
  4. Seerow SWTV★Manager

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    Maul arc every season from now on. I'm calling it now!
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  5. Dan_Grievous_Tikkes_Fan Force Ghost

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    There shouldn't be. Maul has overstayed his welcome... there is nothing to do with him after Mandalore.
  6. Robimus Force Ghost

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    He shouldn't have had anything to do with Mandalore in the first place.
  7. Legolas Skywalker Force Ghost

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    There is lots of stuff to do with him
  8. Robimus Force Ghost

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    He could get beat up by a Gungan given a chance.
  9. hlc88 Force Ghost

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    How has he overstayed his welcome? He's only been in 3 episodes so far.

    Why? How can you judge on something that you haven't seen yet?
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  10. Robimus Force Ghost

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    Well, I have read the Shadow Conspricay novelization, but thats secondary.

    The plots surrounding Mandalore had more than enough steam on their own without having to insert Maul into the picture. I've been waiting for a resolution of the Mandalorian arc from Season 2 for what seems like forever. Now that we are getting it it doesn't even stand on its own. Its been relegated to being a secondary plot that just serves as a backdrop to finishing off the tale of Maul and Randy.

    The Mandalore stuff could have been something special, instead it will be nothing more than a marketing gimmick to make a Darth Maul action figure in Mandalorian armor.
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  11. Legolas Skywalker Force Ghost

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    and Ewoks :p

    and i agree with @hlc88, can't overstay ur welcome if you only have been in 3 episodes
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  12. rumblewagon Force Ghost

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    Why do these goggles not work?!!
  13. Dan_Grievous_Tikkes_Fan Force Ghost

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    Not really... there is more to do with R2 than Maul.


    Already too much.
  14. SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus

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    I sure hope you don't drive at night with those on.;)
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  15. Seerow SWTV★Manager

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    I've gotten used the fact Maul is back (that's lame but it is what it is) and have embraced him as a cool villain. That's something TCW has been lacking. I'll find out soon enough how I feel exactly about throwing him in with Mandalore.
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  16. EHT New Films Manager

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    Or... he shouldn't have had anything to do with TCW in the first place. :p
  17. CT-867-5309 Chosen One

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    Yeah, bringing back Maul was terrible. It just hit me that he already had his shot at Kenobi and blew it. I mean really, if both he and Savage can't take Kenobi together, he should just accept his failure and go away, go farm moisture or something.

    And that's the problem with the whole idea, he cannot succeed against Kenobi, we already know this.
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  18. Valairy Scot Chosen One

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    Well, until Mauldalore is aired, I can only venture that Maul is going to get a chance to get a blow in against Kenobi. There's more than one way to harm a Jedi than just physically.

    I was deadset against Maul returning. One just cannot resurrect a character cut in two, one that catapaulted Obi-Wan into knighthood and mentoring Anakin.

    But it has been done. And I've got to say it's been handled rather brilliantly so far (with hiccups of course - crazy to sane all too fast, etc.); although I am still against the idea I have accepted it.
  19. TaradosGon Manager Emeritus

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    I feel like they just swept Talzin under the rug after Maul's survival until they can find a way to reconcile her disjointed interactions with Asajj and Savage, the latter of which she sent off to find Maul and then just disappeared and hasn't done anything since then.

    I wanted Savage to kill Maul, which I doubt it going to happen. I'd think Maul would sooner kill Savage at this point given how Maul has totally eclipsed Savage and turned him into a lackey that is hardly ever mentioned by fans anymore (contrast to when the Nightsisters arc aired and he was the next big thing).

    And now Talzin just seems like she was forgotten about so that Maul can go have his revenge against Obi-Wan, which just seems like it was done in the dumbest possible way.

    If you know that your Sith Master is the strongest being in the galaxy and controls the two largest armies in the Galaxy indirectly, you do not go rally a bunch of disorganized criminals and put yourself on his radar so that you can humble a Jedi.
  20. 07jonesj Force Ghost

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    I still think Talzin has a plan. How awesome would it be if she turned up in the sequel trilogy?
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  21. CT-867-5309 Chosen One

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  22. Seerow SWTV★Manager

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    My thoughts exactly!

    Maul is going to create serious mental anguish for Kenobi which may give him a little more character development and even contrast him a little more to Anakin. I like the way TCW is handling it so far which is one of the reasons that have helped me accept Maul has returned and is a cool villain. He is the most threatening, best developed, most motivated villain along side Vizsla and Deathwatch that TCW has to offer. It sad and lame, but it is what it is and it does look like great entertainment.

    I think there will be larger ramifications for this than just how it'll effect poor Obi-wan. Snaggletooth dude didn't know the significance to Maul and Savage's red blades and even. I think far as most folks know somebody with a lightsaber is one of those mysterious Jedi. They don't know Red vs Blue lightsaber. Imagine what its going to do for the populous to see two scary guys with a lightsabers leading a army and invading a planet to devastating effect. I'm gonna be interested to see if that plays into anti-Jedi propaganda.
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  23. InterestingLurker Force Ghost

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    That would be awesome. She's one of the best villains in the Star Wars saga, the other villains being Sidious and Cronal.

    Also, if Cronal(along with the Sun Guard) ever appear in the series, TCW will become even better than it already is.
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  24. TaradosGon Manager Emeritus

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    @Seerow I agree to a point. But how they treat Maul just shows that they can do better. There are a bunch of ways they could develop villains they already have, principally Dooku and Grievous. Dooku in particular they could develop as a foil for either Anakin or Obi-Wan, such as exploring why he turned to the Dark Side, why he would join the Sith after they killed Qui-Gon, what it is he hopes to achieve, if Dooku actually has desires to turn Obi-Wan, etc.

    I agree that Maul has been the best villain. But that doesn't feel right. And it just pains me to see that they'll go all out for Maul, but then Dooku and Grievous, who are the most important villains to develop in this show, since they hardly get any in the films and yet are very, very relevant to the conflict, just get passed over.

    It's like they're playing it "safe" and tiptoeing around Grievous and Dooku to honor the EU, when really it's just made them boring. Whereas with Maul they brought back a character that wasn't previously part of the time period and they poured a lot of effort into him and in 3 episodes have made him cooler than 4 seasons had done for Grievous or Dooku.
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  25. darthzac14 Jedi Grand Master

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    Now I wouldn't say that. TCW got the Mandalorians in a sticky situation with all the Traviss, bluh, something, Idk. But this can set up Spar coming on the scene with Fenn Shysa and the Super Commandos with him consolidating the Night Owls/Death Watch/New Mandalorians into what we see in RC