*OFFICIAL THREAD* Qui-Gon and Episode III

well I posted a thread a few days ago and since then I've seen about five threads a day about the same thing so I got permission from Darth Sapient to make the official one and here it is anything you want to discuss about Qui Gon in Ep. 3 you can do it right here

 

Well lets start it off with:

Starlog Magazine (issue #300) interviews George Lucas. Here's a few interesting highlights from the article relating to Episode III:
Lucas on Qui-Gon Jinn?s voice in Episode II:


STARLOG: And isn?t that Qui-Gon Jinn?s [Liam Neeson] voice we hear during Anakin?s attack on the Tusken Raiders who killed Shmi Skywalker [Pernilla August]?
LUCAS: That?s a fan thing, isn?t it? It?s actually more than that. It?s a plot point. All I can really say is that you?ll find out [more] in the next film. If you thought really hard, you would probably be able to figure it out, but it really is a set-up for the next film. It?s connected with the whole ability to be brought into and become a part of the Force, but still be able to retain YOUR ability ? which, up to this point, Anakin couldn?t do. We talked to Liam about [recording new dialogue], and we went back and forth [about it]. This [dialogue] is something we already had [from Menace]. Next time will be a little more complicated.

Just to try and get this going, does anyone think that his voice will be in the movie or will he be a Jedi spectre?

 

QGJ is NOT Sifo Dyas

 

I'm hoping for a spirt that would make it more like the OT IMHO

 

QGJ is NOT a Sith, Dark Jedi, or traitor!

 

My theory is he'll appear to Anakin (or we'll at least hear his voice again) at the penultimate moment where young Skywalker is about to turn to the Dark Side.

 

I think it would be cool to see Qui Gonn (Anakin's first father figure) and Palps (Anakin's eventual father figure) have a war of words over Anakin. They could be like the angel and the devil on his shoulder, trying to get him to go to their respective sides. It would be so dramatic to see Anakin turn on Qui Gonn. That would be the ultimate stab in the back. Qui Gonn was the only person (other than Shmi) to truly believe in Anakin.

 

It sounds to me like we will actually *see* Qui Gon in Ep III, I get that from where George says that they tried to get Liam Neeson to come in and record the "No Anakin" but used old stuff but it'll be more tricky next time. Obviously it'd be harder to have a visual of someone and not know that it was from TPM.

 

I think we will see Qui-Gonn in the next one. The ability to retain his essence could well be the last lesson of a master to his padawan (Obi-Wan, who uses the trick in OT). It would be another great way to tie up the 2 trilogies.

 

The whole "being mindful of the LIVING FORCE" is a major clue as to how one can retain his identity after he becomes one with the force. Though, I'm not sure if this was something he learned on his own, or something Dooku might have taught Qui Gon. I'll guess and say Qui Gon had his own unique style of being a jedi. Being more concerned about the here & now of the force, than the future of the force.

 

OK Spidey

That deserves an explanation

 

I hate to say it, but I think the whole PT would have been better if Qui Gonn was the one to survive the duel with Maul instead of Obi Wan. Of course I know this couldn't have happened b/c of the OT, but Qui Gonn had much more character than Obi Wan. Plus there's no way QG lets Anakin fall.

I think it is pretty much safe to say QG will have a role in EP III. How big of a role and what role is up to speculation.

All I can say is that the more the better.
(Hard to tell I'm a Qui Gonn fan huh?)

 

We will se Qui-Gon...

When Anakin kills the Tuskens
"Anakin Anakin" Qui-Gon
"NOOOOOO!" Random Tusken Raider's last word

 

I believe we will see Qui-Gon Jinn for one reason and one reason only: according to the Attack of the Clones novel, Yoda hears Qui-Gon's voice as he is feeling all of this pain, death, and suffering. The novel states that Yoda felt Qui-Gon Jinn shouldn't be able to retain consciousness after death like that and he knew for a fact that it was Master Qui-Gon's voice he'd heard.

So, out of all the Jedi whoever lived, Qui-Gon could very well be the first to retain his consciousness after death. And he teaches Yoda and Yoda teaches Obi-Wan how to do it.

My 2 cents.

 

Maybe Anakin consciously or unconsciously willed Qui Gonn back in spirit form. It is not hard to tell that in TPM Anakin is close to Qui Gonn. Perhaps after the loss, Anakin fiercely wishes that Qui Gonn was still alive. Unknowlingly to him, his immense force potential allows Qui Gonn to maintain his identity.

just a theory

 

I kind of hope Qui-gon speaks to Anakin, but actually appears before Obi-wan. I feel like it would be nice if Obi-wan is there for Luke in Episode IV just like Qui-gon is there for him in Episode III.

 

If QGJ returns as a spectre, would he know that Palpatine is Darth Sidious?

 

what makes you think that I haven't seen any thing that makes me belive that they become all knowing

 

ROTJ Luke goes to see Yoda
Luke:Master Yoda you can't die.
Yoda:Strong I am in the force,but not that strong.
GL said that Yoda hearing QGJ is a plot point and if thought out it would make sense.

 

Spiderman, thats a great theory man! but if Qui-Gon were to appear in the flesh, wouldn't he do something productive? like kill someone evil?

 

I agree that it is possible Obi-Wan and Yoda were dead the whole time in the OT.
Owen Lars insisted Obi-Wan was dead, and didn't want Luke to go there. Yoda's line about luminous beings and crude matter could hold some significance.

 

Just think about how much the movies' story would change if Anakin was Qui-Gon's padawan instead of Obi.

 

I don't see it happening that IMO would be stupid to say that Ben and Yoda are both dead in the OT it has to be something else and you can't use EU as proof for your theroy (sp?)

 

Oh I didn't know that sorry, I still hope it doesn't happen though I would rather he came up with some other explanation

 

Just thought of something when Luke is talking to Ben about R2 looking for Obi Wan he says
Luke: "I think my uncle knows him... he said he was dead"
Ben: " Oh he's not dead ... not yet"
so it couldn't be Lucas would just take to much bashing over this and I don't see it happening I'm not ruling it out completely but I can't see why he would do this it's just to contrdicting