I just wanted to re-post my thoughts here . . Yes there have been casualties and pain in the NJO. However, in addition to a new way of looking at the force, (which isn't really all that new)isn't one of the main points of TRAITOR that pain and suffering makes us stronger. Pain matures us into something greater. For a long time I was confused about the difference between what Vergere sees in Jacen's suffering and what the Y. Vong see. Vergere sees pain as a trial to be overcome, to lead to wisdom in life. The Y. Vong see pain as life itself, which can only lead to death. Anyway, my point is use Jacen as a microcausim for the whole galaxy becoming wiser and more mature, and use the NJO as a microcausim for what is happening in the real world. The message is, in the end, that despite evil's intent to cause harm or pain, in reality it only made us stronger. To me that is a very positive and hopeful message. While I am being entertained by this fantasy, I am also poetically getting a possitive message. That is the mark of a good story to me.