JCC OFFICIAL - US Elections pre-primary thread

Discussion in 'Community' started by GrandAdmiralJello, Aug 15, 2011.

  1. VadersLaMent Chosen One

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    I stand corrected.

    Apparently perry finished 6th at the Straw Poll. Thanks to Colbert who urged folks to write in the name Parry rather than Perry he may have gotten more votes than he would have without Colbert.
  2. Kiki-Gonn Chosen One

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    Poor MB, she had the market cornered on crazy til Rick with a P came along.

    So she's saying she worked for the IRS so she could, "Know her enemy." Are even tea party members dumb enough to buy that?
  3. Darth Guy Chosen One

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  4. anakinfansince1983 Chosen One

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    I was just coming in to post about that. [face_laugh]
  5. Lowbacca_1977 Force Ghost

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    I'm getting the impression the candidates are trying so hard to be the next Reagan that they're starting to replace the world with Reagan's world. Next she'll be talking about the corrupting influence Pac-Man will have on the kids.
  6. anakinfansince1983 Chosen One

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    Bring it. Love me some Pac-Man. And Space Invaders.

    As far as Reagan, what is sad that these same Tea Partiers who worship him now, would call him a socialist if he were still President. They would not give him as hard a time as they are giving Obama for increasing spending because he was increasing it for "good reasons" :rolleyes: , but the government grew under his administration and he did not try to reform social security (unless borrowing from it counts) and he did not try to touch Medicare. And he actually appointed some Supreme Court Justices who weren't falling off the right side of the Earth. Alito, Roberts, Clarence Thomas, I'm looking at you.
  7. MrZAP Force Ghost

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    I would love to get an excuse to play more Galaga.:p

    My hope is that Perry and Bachmann cancel each other out with a split vote and neither of them get the nomination. Of course, that means Bachmann actually needs enough support to not drop out too soon. If they can both stay in the running until the primary then their respective supporters will eat each other alive and the nomination will go to Romney or (unlikely as it may be) Huntsman. Of the options given I'd still prefer Obama over any of them, but at least Romney and Huntsman aren't as dangerous.
  8. Alpha-Red Force Ghost

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  9. VadersLaMent Chosen One

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  10. anakinfansince1983 Chosen One

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    "Abstinence...works. I can tell you from my own personal life."

    Damn. TMI, Rick.
  11. Jedi Merkurian Episode VII Thread-Reaper and Rumor Naysayer

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  12. MrZAP Force Ghost

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    He needs to learn that personal anecdotes are not a suitable substitute for statistics.
  13. Jabba-wocky Chosen One

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    I really appreciated the questioner's persistence. What it revealed (outside of Perry's poor grasp of the topic) was something that I ultimately find damning about small government conservative. Yes, he seemed to concede, they were doing a terrible job by any objective measure. But he would have a society that everyone agrees is worse than make any sort of investment in social infrastructure.

    The more disturbing point he talked around is that he'd rather have an ineffective policy that is ideologically comfortable than try to find what works. But given that he thought the spending argument would work well as a fake defense, I tihnk that's pretty suggestive of his tendencies.
  14. Kiki-Gonn Chosen One

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    OMG that was painful to watch. This half wit will lose to Obama regardless of the economy (should he get the nomination). He's that frighteningly stupid and sounds note for note like GWB. Even down to the confused look on his face as he struggles to come up with, I don't know, a word.

    I understand that he'll expose himself as little as possible and look good in staged events but surely GWB is too fresh in the public memory to fall for the exact same trick twice.
  15. GrandAdmiralJello Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque

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  16. ApolloSmileGirl Jedi Grand Master

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    Every time Perry's been reelected here, it's blown my mind. I'd like to think the nation as a whole wouldn't be stupid enough to vote him in. However, if Bush got in the White House, I'm still not convinced that it's not frighteningly possible that it could happen again with Perry.
  17. MrZAP Force Ghost

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    Finally watched this. I have a feeling that if Obama is as much a lock for the Democratic nomination as he seems then I'll have to choose to vote in the Republican primary for Huntsman (if he stays in the race that long). One of the better advantages of being unaffiliated: I can choose to vote in either one (but not both) of the two major party primaries.
  18. Kiki-Gonn Chosen One

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    I hate that he's the longest serving governor we've ever had.
  19. kingthlayer Force Ghost

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    He doesn't in 2012. I think/hope the stars are aligning for a Huntsman presidency come 2016 though.
  20. Alpha-Red Force Ghost

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    If I may ask, why wouldn't you vote for Obama?
  21. Game3525 Force Ghost

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    I still don't understand people's fascination with Huntsman......
  22. Jabba-wocky Chosen One

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    Yeah. Even on his supposed "good" points, he's not very good. For instance, although he admits to human activity being the primary driver of global warming, he absolutely opposes any policies that would attempt to fix that. Why should someone get credit for that?
  23. Game3525 Force Ghost

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    The one that gets me is how some of my friends who are fairly liberal say they might vote for him over Obama if were to win the GOP nomination, do they really think Huntsman is going to be more further to the left then Obama?
  24. Kiki-Gonn Chosen One

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    It's just the contrast that makes him look so good. In other words, he isn't bat s@&/ crazy.
  25. MrZAP Force Ghost

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    Oh, in the general election I would. I'm talking about the primary. I can vote in either primary so if Obama is a lock for the Democratic nomination anyway I might as well do my part to make sure a crazy person isn't nominated against him. That's all I meant.

    Honestly neither of them appeal to me a ton. Obama has been a decent president so far but he's not my ideal choice. I think that reflects more on myself than him though, and how the kind of candidate I would prefer doesn't really exist.