JCC OFFICIAL - US Elections pre-primary thread

I stand corrected.

Apparently perry finished 6th at the Straw Poll. Thanks to Colbert who urged folks to write in the name Parry rather than Perry he may have gotten more votes than he would have without Colbert.

 

Poor MB, she had the market cornered on crazy til Rick with a P came along.

So she's saying she worked for the IRS so she could, "Know her enemy." Are even tea party members dumb enough to buy that?

 

Bachmann fears the rise of the Soviet Union.

 

I'm getting the impression the candidates are trying so hard to be the next Reagan that they're starting to replace the world with Reagan's world. Next she'll be talking about the corrupting influence Pac-Man will have on the kids.

 

I would love to get an excuse to play more Galaga.

My hope is that Perry and Bachmann cancel each other out with a split vote and neither of them get the nomination. Of course, that means Bachmann actually needs enough support to not drop out too soon. If they can both stay in the running until the primary then their respective supporters will eat each other alive and the nomination will go to Romney or (unlikely as it may be) Huntsman. Of the options given I'd still prefer Obama over any of them, but at least Romney and Huntsman aren't as dangerous.

 

Bravo for Jon Huntsman.

 

Rick Perry Struggles to answer Question on Abstinence

It's shocking just how backwards this is and he states it flat out.

 

He needs to learn that personal anecdotes are not a suitable substitute for statistics.

 

I really appreciated the questioner's persistence. What it revealed (outside of Perry's poor grasp of the topic) was something that I ultimately find damning about small government conservative. Yes, he seemed to concede, they were doing a terrible job by any objective measure. But he would have a society that everyone agrees is worse than make any sort of investment in social infrastructure.

The more disturbing point he talked around is that he'd rather have an ineffective policy that is ideologically comfortable than try to find what works. But given that he thought the spending argument would work well as a fake defense, I tihnk that's pretty suggestive of his tendencies.

 

OMG that was painful to watch. This half wit will lose to Obama regardless of the economy (should he get the nomination). He's that frighteningly stupid and sounds note for note like GWB. Even down to the confused look on his face as he struggles to come up with, I don't know, a word.

I understand that he'll expose himself as little as possible and look good in staged events but surely GWB is too fresh in the public memory to fall for the exact same trick twice.

 

Every time Perry's been reelected here, it's blown my mind. I'd like to think the nation as a whole wouldn't be stupid enough to vote him in. However, if Bush got in the White House, I'm still not convinced that it's not frighteningly possible that it could happen again with Perry.

 

Finally watched this. I have a feeling that if Obama is as much a lock for the Democratic nomination as he seems then I'll have to choose to vote in the Republican primary for Huntsman (if he stays in the race that long). One of the better advantages of being unaffiliated: I can choose to vote in either one (but not both) of the two major party primaries.

 

I hate that he's the longest serving governor we've ever had.

 

He doesn't in 2012. I think/hope the stars are aligning for a Huntsman presidency come 2016 though.

 

If I may ask, why wouldn't you vote for Obama?

 

I still don't understand people's fascination with Huntsman......

 

Yeah. Even on his supposed "good" points, he's not very good. For instance, although he admits to human activity being the primary driver of global warming, he absolutely opposes any policies that would attempt to fix that. Why should someone get credit for that?

 

The one that gets me is how some of my friends who are fairly liberal say they might vote for him over Obama if were to win the GOP nomination, do they really think Huntsman is going to be more further to the left then Obama?

 

It's just the contrast that makes him look so good. In other words, he isn't bat s@&/ crazy.

 

Oh, in the general election I would. I'm talking about the primary. I can vote in either primary so if Obama is a lock for the Democratic nomination anyway I might as well do my part to make sure a crazy person isn't nominated against him. That's all I meant.

Honestly neither of them appeal to me a ton. Obama has been a decent president so far but he's not my ideal choice. I think that reflects more on myself than him though, and how the kind of candidate I would prefer doesn't really exist.