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Amph One Ring To Rule Them All: The Hobbit & Lord of the Rings Trilogies + Amazon Prequel Series

Discussion in 'Community' started by -Courtney-, Nov 25, 2006.

  1. Rogue1-and-a-half

    Rogue1-and-a-half Manager Emeritus who is writing his masterpiece star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Normal people are allowed to do it. Just celebrities aren't.
     
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  2. Mar17swgirl

    Mar17swgirl Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    The Green Dragon opens in Hobbiton

    I'm so totally visiting this place one day. [face_love]

    Also, this made me slightly misty-eyed...

    EDIT: And a new TV spot!



    Remember how much older Ian Holm's Bilbo looked in the very first teaser trailer? Well, in here (0:07) he looks almost exactly like he did in LOTR. :D It seems they've applied the same "rejuvenating" digital "makeup" to him as they did to Christopher Lee (and possibly even Cate Blanchett?).
     
  3. Jabba-wocky

    Jabba-wocky Chosen One star 9

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    That's actually not the substance of the critique at all. People are complaining because they think Jackson is needlessly stretching out the length of the films, secure in the knowledge that people will pay for the additional tickets regardless of the quality of the added material (that is, whether it adds anything to the story or not). This isn't the equivalent of working hard to get more money. It's like a fast food restaurant that fills their drinks to the brim with ice so they can minimize the amount of beverage you actually get.
     
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  4. Mar17swgirl

    Mar17swgirl Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    You know, I really don't think making more money is Jackson's motivation/reason for making the Hobbit films into a trilogy... For what it's worth, this is the last chance he gets to make a Middle-earth film - unless Christopher Tolkien and the Tolkien Estate decide to sell the film rights to Silmarillion (which I highly doubt).
     
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  5. Darth Guy

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    I actually agree. Jackson personally is not motivated by making even more money, but I'm sure Warner Brothers was when they greenlit the third film.
     
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  6. Mar17swgirl

    Mar17swgirl Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Oh, there's no doubt that when Jackson made that suggestion, WB went "Yay! Moar moneyz!" :p But the first impulse for a third film came from Jackson and I believe him when he says it was a purely creative decision.
     
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  7. laurethiel1138

    laurethiel1138 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Well, AUJ clocks in at 2h40. Considering that ROTK was 3h30 long (I love that movie, but it was a bit of a trial to watch it in one go in the theatre), I think I'd much prefer having to sit through thrice 2h30 than twice 3h45 (or thereabouts), provided the narrative breaks between the movies come naturally.

    Cheers,
    Lauré :)
     
  8. I Are The Internets

    I Are The Internets Force Ghost star 8

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    This could work if Part 2 is 20 minutes long. It would be the greatest hoax in modern cinema.

    But seriously how are they going to do this unless if Part 3 is using the stuff that was written in the appendices?
     
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  9. Darth Guy

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    I imagine the White Council/Necromancer stuff is going to take up a good chunk of the films.
     
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  10. Ghost

    Ghost Chosen One star 7

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    But the Necromancer, and Smaug, are both defeated around the same time, in order for Gandalf to arrive in time for the negotiations before the Battle, when Bilbo has the Arkenstone. And with the title of the second movie, it seems that that leaves the entire third movie to only be about the Battle of the Five Armies.

    And really, do people read the Appendices? There's hardly any stuff in there that would even fit into the Hobbit story.
     
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  11. I Are The Internets

    I Are The Internets Force Ghost star 8

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    Maybe part 3 is filmed entirely in slow motion.
     
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  12. solojones

    solojones Force Ghost star 9

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    They can do this thing called adaptation where they rearrange the order things happen in. Hear it worked out for these films called Lord of the Rings...
     
  13. jp-30

    jp-30 Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Hobbit Episode 3 is a flash-forward clip show using scenes from LOTR.

    Edit: Semi-ninja'd.
     
  14. VadersLaMent

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  15. jp-30

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  16. Mar17swgirl

    Mar17swgirl Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Pffft, Sindarin... [face_talk_hand] I expect the next weather report in Quenya. :p
     
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  17. I Are The Internets

    I Are The Internets Force Ghost star 8

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    Why not the Mordor language? What's that called again? I'm running on 5 hours of sleep.
     
  18. Jabbadabbado

    Jabbadabbado Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Great article about Fran Walsh in the NYT.

    I'm in training now for a very tough couple of days. Midnight showing of Hobbit on the 13th, then Book of Mormon on the 14th, then on the 15th I'll be looking for an IMAX Hobbit with the kids. The biggest risk posed by Peter Jackson movies is deep vein thrombosis. I advise a few weeks of practicing basic leg circulation exercises.
     
  19. laurethiel1138

    laurethiel1138 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    It's called Black Speech in the Common Tongue of Middle-Earth (i.e. Westron), and we have no idea what it's called in-language.
    As an additionnal note, the Dwarven language is called Khuzdul by the Dwarves.

    Cheers,
    Lauré :)
     
  20. Mar17swgirl

    Mar17swgirl Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    The Black Speech. But there are only a handful of words known from it - most of them from the inscription on the One Ring.

    Quenya is by far the most developed of Tolkien's languages, both in grammar and in vocabulary. Sindarin is second, with a considerably smaller vocabulary, and from other languages (Khuzdul, Adûnaic, Black Speech/Orkish, Valarin) there are only fragments.

    Ardalambion is a great website about Tolkien's languages. :)
     
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  21. I Are The Internets

    I Are The Internets Force Ghost star 8

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    Oh really? Thought there was some complicated sounding name for it. Thanks.
     
  22. Jabbadabbado

    Jabbadabbado Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    More Hobbit News

    from Reuters:

    If Hobbit pulls in $475 million in the U.S. and has a foreign/U.S. box office split similar to Return of the King, it will make about $1.41 billion worldwide, second only to Avengers for the year. Here's to the four quadrants of middle earth: Tolkien nerds like Mars17swgirl and laurethiel138, old folks like me who grew up with the Hobbit, Jacksonite LOTR fans, and children.
     
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  23. I Are The Internets

    I Are The Internets Force Ghost star 8

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    That would be amazing because 2012 would then be the first year in film history to have 4 movies gross over 400 million domestically.
    The Avengers
    The Dark Knight Rises
    The Hunger Games
    ?The Hobbit?
    Not necessarily in any particular order.
     
  24. Mar17swgirl

    Mar17swgirl Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    It's Mar, dammit, not Mars... :p
     
  25. darthcaedus1138

    darthcaedus1138 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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