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Amph One Thread To Rule Them All: The Rings of Power + The Hobbit & Lord of the Rings Trilogies

Discussion in 'Community' started by -Courtney-, Nov 25, 2006.

  1. Havac

    Havac Former Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I still haven't seen Smaug. My interest went to zero after the first one blew. I'm happier not having them in my mind next time I read the book.
     
  2. I Are The Internets

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    I hope this is as good as Matrix Revolutions!!!!!!!:)
     
  3. EHT

    EHT Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    ROTK was better than TTT, for me, mostly because of what I said before about how nothing very noteworthy really happens in TTT. If one were to go from the end of FOTR to the beginning of ROTK, it would actually be a pretty smooth transition. In ROTK, the main issues for me were a general sense of overkill in the battles (especially things like the oliphaunts and the army of the dead) and how the movie takes a very long time to end. FOTR doesn't have those types of issues, which is why I agreed with earlier statements that it was probably the best of the trilogy.

    Note: I'm not sure, but I think these points may hold true for the novels, too (in which case they're not just criticisms of the movies)... I've only read parts of the novels and it's been a long time.
     
  4. Deputy Rick Grimes

    Deputy Rick Grimes Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    IMO the Hobbit movies are better than the book.

    The book is fun though.
     
  5. darthcaedus1138

    darthcaedus1138 Force Ghost star 5

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  6. Nobody145

    Nobody145 Force Ghost star 5

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    Fellowship was probably the best, Two Towers was ok up until the Elf army showed up (really?), RotK had quite a few good moments but also the endings just dragged on and on. With all that, I do wish they had shown Saruman in the Shire (yes, I know there's an extended scene that shows Saruman's death in the movies, but in the book I just love how Frodo, after everything he's been through, still shows mercy even to someone like Saruman).

    I dread how the Battle of Five Armies will turn out. It should be epic, but I expect 70% of it will be the Elves, mainly Legolas and what's her name, Tauriel, probably some last looks between Tauriel and that dwarf (Kili? Fili? I forget which one had that boring romance), maybe 2 minutes of Thorin fighting (since he's had such a good record in these movies, being beaten up by that orc in the first Hobbit movie, then spending the finale of the second Hobbit movie running from a dragon that should kill them in seconds :rolleyes: ), Elvish archers,10 minutes of Bard arguing with the Master about the logical course of action, Elven king probably being mean to everyone and probably not bothering to stop and help Laketown, Gandalf calling the eagles somehow, and intermixed will be at least 15 minutes of foreshadowing about Sauron, Saruman and oh yeah, did I mention Elves? :p

    I half expect Bilbo will jump into the fighting somehow, will be tempted by the Ring, will try to fight something, get knocked unconscious and then the Ring will slip on his finger "accidentally" leading to him missing the rest of the battle. Well, for most of the movie Bilbo will probably be busy being tempted by the Ring and the Arkenstone. I think Desolation turned the Arkenstone into some sort of super tempting object? I was checking my watch a lot during the time when Bilbo was sliding on all the gold coins.
     
  7. EHT

    EHT Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Bilbo is affected by the Ring, but I don't think the Arkenstone affected him (I don't think it was intended to be a "super tempting object" like the Ring). Obviously Thorin really really wants it because he thinks it will help legitimize his rule. At any rate, a lot of those predictions above about the possible breakdown of TBOTFA are probably pretty accurate.
     
  8. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Chosen One star 7

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    Wasn't that already covered by AUJ?

    There was only one ending... it was the same as the one in the book. They even used the same dialogue...
     
  9. Jabbadabbado

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    Sauron is going to kick so much ass at TBOTFA.
     
  10. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Chosen One star 7

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    By proxy.
     
  11. Deputy Rick Grimes

    Deputy Rick Grimes Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Not according to some people here :p
     
  12. EHT

    EHT Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Not to beat a dead horse, but I was thinking a bit more about this after writing that post. From a certain point of view, it's kind of odd to even weigh the merits or flaws of the three movies against each other, for the purposes of saying which is best, etc... since they really are three parts of one long film (just as the books are really three volumes of one long novel). Anyway, just wanted to throw that out there as a follow-up. :)
     
  13. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    I'm sure I ranked these before but what the hell.

    1. TTT
    2. Fellowship
    3. The Hobbit
    4. ROTK
    5. Smaug

    My favorite scene is the Balrog scene in Fellowship. I would love to have seen that at 48 fps.
     
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  14. Deputy Rick Grimes

    Deputy Rick Grimes Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Mine would be

    1. ROTK
    2. FOTR
    3. TTT
    4. TDOS
    5. AUJ

    The Battle of the Five Armies could overtake TDOS for 4th place.
     
  15. Grievousdude

    Grievousdude Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I would rank them as

    1 Two Towers
    2 Desolation of Smaug
    3 Fellowship of the Ring
    4 Return of the King
    5 An Unexpected Journey

    I think all of them are great though.
     
  16. Barriss_Coffee

    Barriss_Coffee Chosen One star 6

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    OneRing.net had a nostalgiafest last week, posting some of the old trailers. The very first Fellowship teaser trailer reminds me of what you just said -- I had completely forgotten it had scenes from the other films:

     
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  17. Diggy

    Diggy Chosen One star 8

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    In that case, the first act of the film was very enjoyable, the second was dull, and the third act was terrible. It's a 1.5 star movie.
     
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  18. Diggy

    Diggy Chosen One star 8

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    I completely understand pre-judging a film. But to have a suspicion is where it will is absolutely ridiculous.
     
  19. Deputy Rick Grimes

    Deputy Rick Grimes Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    If you guys don't think this scene is awesome then you have serious issues :p

     
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  20. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Chosen One star 7

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    Exactly.
     
  21. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Force Ghost star 7

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    That scene is awesome!
     
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  22. Darth_Invidious

    Darth_Invidious Force Ghost star 6

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    Undoubtedly. But I think ROTK suffers from some serious editing issues, made all the more glaring by it's EE.

    My ranking:

    -3 to - 1: this whole Hobbit disaster.
    1) FOTR
    2) TTT
    3) ROTK
     
  23. timmoishere

    timmoishere Force Ghost star 6

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    1) ROTK
    2) FOTR
    3) TDOS
    4) TTT
    5) AUJ
     
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  24. vinsanity

    vinsanity Jedi Master star 4

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    [​IMG]

    Official Comic-Con poster
     
  25. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Force Ghost star 7

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    That honestly should have been part of the last movie.