Discussion in 'Community' started by -Courtney-, Nov 25, 2006.
Y U TROLLING
I think it's more of that the hobbit is a huge part of my childhood, as was star wars. This is just looking to be another half-***ed reinvention of something that was good.
I don't get it....does it have to be 95% RT score or bust?
Clearly Tolkien's moment has passed, as far as the larger culture is concerned. Or something. People now explicitly saying that Tolkien couldn't write a good plot? Madness.
You should be.
Another thing I like about the reviews is that everyone says that the LOTR is superior. NO @##% LOTR has always be superior over the Hobbit. Glad to see that still hasn't changed.
The movie isn't out yet! Until one is able to see it, and its box-office, you can't say it's a failure. I really don't like, for example, Avatar, but it wasn't a failure.
Make a decision for yourself after seeing it. Don't state that a movie is a failure before having seen it, and even then, a statement of dislike is better.
Also, I don't think LotR is better. LotR is just vastly different. The Hobbit (book) is perfect at what it does:being an enjoyable book I can read aloud to my kid sister without worry of appropriateness, and that I can still greatly enjoy myself. Just because its not LotR doesn't make it worse.
Nah, it's and epic fail. Too bad. I had high hopes.
And you haven't even seen it yet. I'm ashamed of you.
Vin knows things before they happen. Somehow, he's always known.
Sacrificing homeless folk in sacred fires gives me vision.
Or in other words, we shouldn't listen to you, we should run the other way...
What are you so shocked about? I'll be very surprised if that review is not correct. Tolkien is praised for his ability to create a coherent mythology out of lot of European folklore. Technically, he was a pretty awful writer. Speaking to the somewhat lager issue of storytelling, please recall that by his own admission, he was well into the "story" before admitting to his editors that he had no idea what it was actually about. One cannot, in such a circumstance, claim that a story is tightly-written or carefully crafted. That is, by definition, the opposite.
I don't know how this movie is going to turn out. Nor do I particularly care. But it's not some unimaginable heresy to suggest that these are badly written stories. Nor does "bad" mean "unenjoyable." It just means. . .not good.
It already has premiered in a few places.
I actually prefer Hobbit over Lord of the Rings. LotR is far more epic, but Hobbit is just more enjoyable to me.
I wondered what was causing that smell. Thanks a bunch.
If you put together everything ever created by all the people yapping about Tolkien being a bad writer, it wouldn't be worth a single page of the Athrabeth Finrod ah Andreth and that was such a minor work he never even finished it. Anyone who criticizes Tolkien's ability as a writer is only making a point of parading their ignorance around on display. "Technically," as you say, he was a genius.
What does that mean? I'm sorry, but I think that a decidedly bad argument. One does not have to be superior at a given skill to earn the right to criticism. One needn't be a world-renowned opera singer--or have any training at all--to recognize that Carl Lewis's rendition of the National Anthem needs work. Nor does one need a Pulitzer Prize that to know that writing over one hundred pages with literally no plot at all leaves something to be desired in the story-telling department.
Or take this another way. Few boxers have or ever will rival Muhammad Ali. Yet, he was well known to have problems with keeping his guard up appropriately. Obama is hailed as a brilliant communicator, but his distance and aloofness is much remarked upon. Even legends who fundamentally change their craft are not demigods. They still have flaws. Why do you all fly into such an indignant rage when someone dares to mention Tolkien's?
Don't look at me. I still haven't read Return of the King.
because thats what being a nerd is
I'm assuming these people that are saying the movie is bad have built a time machine and have already seen it?! If so that's freakin' cool man. You should, like, tell me what the future is like and stuff.
Critics often get to see movies early.
so it sucks, huh? ok i will not bother to see it.