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Opening Round, Game 2: The RICHARDSONS (FORMERLY TEAM 4) vs. The Master Batters

Discussion in 'Archive: Forum Feud' started by DarthIntegral, Jul 10, 2008.

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  1. Sauntaero

    Sauntaero Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Hal, you have way too much time on your hands.

    But it's a pretty cool picture.
     
  2. Everton

    Everton Chosen One star 10

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    :D

    'Goose egg' was an option I came across as I was looking for my last guess, although I considered it so unlikely it didn't even make my short list. :p
     
  3. OBIWAN-JR

    OBIWAN-JR Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    [image=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v464/OBIWAN-JR/JCCpwnsyou.jpg]


    -JR :)
     
  4. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral JCC Baseball Draft/SWC Draft Commish star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP - Game Host

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    For the record, Goose Egg is a term used in baseball. As in 'They've got goose eggs across the board"

    I'll get the bonus round PMed a little later today. :)
     
  5. Rogue...Jedi

    Rogue...Jedi Administrator Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Goose egg is used somewhat sparingly in a number of sports, basketball and football included as well as baseball. And others.
     
  6. halibut

    halibut Ex-Mod star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    <img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/halibut/gimernotalent.jpg">
     
  7. Everton

    Everton Chosen One star 10

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    Ah. The Internet told me it was used for ten pin bowling.
     
  8. George_Roper

    George_Roper Jedi Knight star 7

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    Quality pictures people.
     
  9. Everton

    Everton Chosen One star 10

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    Except RICHARDSONS shouldn't have an apostrophe. :p
     
  10. halibut

    halibut Ex-Mod star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Well, it should be after the S, not before
     
  11. GIMER

    GIMER Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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  12. Everton

    Everton Chosen One star 10

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    See I'm not 100% sure about this, but I'd say that would be the case if Richardson itself ended with an 's'. The term we are using... 'RICHARDSONS' is a plural.

    We're not talking about our team car. That would be 'The RICHARDSONS' car'.
     
  13. OBIWAN-JR

    OBIWAN-JR Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    That's cool, but how long do we have to respond, Inty? As I have to go drinking with a pal who's leaving work, now (I've been hanging back).

    Is it still 24 hrs, as I won't be able to get back here now for 15 hrs....?


    -JR :)
     
  14. halibut

    halibut Ex-Mod star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yes, but TEAM RICHARDSONS' also means TEAM RICHARDSONS HAS

    Richardsons is plural, but Team Richardsons is singular as there's only one team

    Or I could have put The RICHARDSONS've
     
  15. halibut

    halibut Ex-Mod star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    And ^ that post gives this thread more than double the posts of the social thread [face_dancing]
     
  16. Everton

    Everton Chosen One star 10

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    The problem there, is that "TEAM RICHARDSONS HAS GOT TALENT" doesn't read very well. It almost doesn't make sense. So the sentence has to be structured otherwise.

    For my part, the "got" part of the original sentence establishes ownership. You could correctly say, "TEAM RICHARDSONS TALENT", but that's not what we're trying to say here. So, the only viable alternative incorporating the already dodgy phrasing of "x got talnt" is "The RICHARDSONS got talent".
     
  17. OBIWAN-JR

    OBIWAN-JR Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Right, I really do have to go now chaps; Inty has yet to PM me. If his answer to my question is 'less than 24 hrs', the I suggest you nom someone else, Mark - otherwise I will see you all tomoz and apologies for making you wait for glorious colours.

    :p


    -JR :)
     
  18. halibut

    halibut Ex-Mod star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    It might not read well, but that's what happens when singular phrases end with S

    It's like out film company, Backyard Productions. We always debate whether to say "Backyard Productions present" or "presentS". The latter is correct. So you'd also say "Backyard Productions has got talent".

    I think it may appear to read wrong because you know that Richardson is a surname so you automatically assume Richardsons is plural, but "Team Richardsons has" is absolutely correct.
     
  19. Everton

    Everton Chosen One star 10

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    You don't need the apostrophe. 'got' establishes ownership. That's what apostrophe's (in this context) do. Including the apostrophe is duplicating information.
     
  20. MarcusP2

    MarcusP2 Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    This is correct, if you study the tournament bracket. You were obviously a low seed. :p
     
  21. Everton

    Everton Chosen One star 10

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    If a phrase doesn't sound correct, it generally isn't. RICHARDSONS may be singular, but one shouldn't put in an apostrophe if the expanded version of the sentence sounds daft. Leave it out.
     
  22. halibut

    halibut Ex-Mod star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    No, this is not the genitive case and is nothing to do with possession. The apostrophe is replacing the letters "HA" from "HAS" and is therefore necessary. It's the same as "halibut's been to the shop"
     
  23. Everton

    Everton Chosen One star 10

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    No it's not.

    "halibut has been to the shop" makes perfect sense.

    "Team Richardsons has got talent" does not.

    It is vitally important that a sentence makes sense. In this case, this inclusion of an apostrophe stops that happening. Leave the apostrophe out, and all is well. The word 'got' tells us that our team has the talent. We have it. It is ours. Therefore we don't need an apostophe telling us that our team has the talent, which is what you propose.
     
  24. halibut

    halibut Ex-Mod star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    But the apostrophe ISN'T telling you the team has the talent, it's telling you the word "has" is there.
     
  25. Darth_Omega

    Darth_Omega Force Ghost star 6

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    And the team is falling apart because of a pointless discussion. :p
     
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