Lit Opinions on Michael A. Stackpole's writing?1

That reminds me how annoying that trope was in the NJO/Post-NJO.

People hate Jedi, blame Jedi for things, Jedi v Senate, Luke is banished from Coruscant. All those things happened in NJO (Edge of Victory), LOTF and FOTJ.

Even DNT had Jedi being captured/mistrusted by the Galactic Alliance Fleet.

 

New Republic capital ships per book:

X-wing: Rogue Squadron:
- Imperial II-class Star Destroyer Emancipator
- EF76 Nebulon-B escort frigate Reprieve
- MC80 Home One-type Star Cruiser Home One
- Modified Bulk Cruiser Mon Valle
- Modified Bulk Cruiser Corulag
- CR90 corvette Eridain

X-wing: Wedge's Gamble
- Imperial II-class Star Destroyer Emancipator
- Imperial I-class Star Destroyer Liberator
- MC80 Home One-type Star Cruiser Home One
- MC80B Star Cruiser Mon Remonda
- Immobilizer 418 cruiser Corusca Rainbow (formerly Black Asp)

X-wing: The Krytos Trap
- Modified GR-75 medium transport Courage of Sullust

X-wing: The Bacta War
- Imperial II-class Star Destroyer Freedom (formerly Avarice) [post-Thyferra]
- Executor-class Star Dreadnought Lusankya [post-Thyferra]

X-wing: Wraith Squadron
- GR-75 medium transport Bright Nebula
- GR-75 medium transport Borleias
- CR90 corvette Night Caller [post-capture]
- MC80 Home One-type Star Cruiser Home One
- frigate Chandrila Sea (mentioned only)

X-wing: Iron Fist
- MC80b Star Cruiser Mon Remonda
- Xiytiar-class transport Sungrass

X-wing: Solo Command
- MC80b Star Cruiser Mon Remonda
- MC80 Star Cruiser Mon Karren
- EF76 Nebulon-B escort frigate Tedevium
- CR90 corvette Ession Strike (formerly Night Caller)
- MC80 Star Cruiser Mon Delindo
- Imperial II-class Star Destroyer Skyhook
- Quasar Fire-class cruiser-carrier Battle Dog
- EF76 Nebulon-B escort frigate Warder
- Imperial I-class Star Destroyer Allegiance
- Imperial-class Star Destroyer Crynyd
- Marauder-class corvette Etherhawk
- Immobilizer 418 cruiser Stellar Web [technically Imperial]

X-wing: Isard's Revenge
- MC80 Home One-type Star Cruiser Home One
- Imperial II-class Star Destroyer Freedom
- Imperial II-class Star Destroyer Moonshadow
- Victory II-class Star Destroyer Swift Liberty
- Victory I-class Star Destroyer Corusca Fire
- Victory I-class Star Destroyer Selonian Fire
- EF76 Nebulon-B escort frigate Intrepid
- EF76 Nebulon-B escort frigate Peacemaker
- EF76 Nebulon-B escort frigate Pride of Eiattu
- EF76 Nebulon-B escort frigate Thunderchild
- CR90 corvette Pride of Selonia
- CR90 corvette Chandrila
- CR90 corvette Sullust
- CR90 corvette Ryloth
- CR90 corvette Mantooine
- CR90 corvette Dantooine
- CR90 corvette Mrlsst
- Imperial-class Star Destroyer Decisive [post-Ciutric]
- Interdictor Star Destroyer Binder [post-Ciutric]
- Imperial-class Star Destroyer Direption [post-Liinade III]
- Executor-class Star Dreadnought Lusankya

X-wing: Starfighters of Adumar
- Imperial I-class Star Destroyer Allegiance
- Mon Calamari Star Cruiser Mon Casima

(And this is what I can remember)

 

not sure if srs

that's impressive

 

Emancipator keeps swinging back forth between ISD-I and ISD-II's everywhere I read.

 

It's true.

Though I realised I muddled up on one.

frigate Chandrila Sea is actually Mother Sea!

 

After recently trying to re-read some of Stackpoles books. People just monologuing speeches while winking is hard to read. I had to give up. It's like He-Man cartoon dialogue. Also the super cool guy and his pals with there super machines blowing everyone else away can be hard to take, if you are a Movie purist. In the OT X-wings and TIEs seems about equal. In his books TIEs are death traps and X-wings are now super ships. As for Horn the guy is clearly Stackpoles alter ego. He never loses and is always awesome.

 

Wasn't Corran originally Stackpole's character in a WEG RPG?

 

I want to complain about huge ISDs warships get destroyed by mere snubfighters. And not spam snubfighters either. A single one.

 

You know there was this thing called the Death Star . . .

 

Stackpole is one of the best Star Wars writers that has written in the set. Alston was another, unfortunately Disney destroyed all of the love he put into it before he passed. Stackpole does love Corran, but every writer has characters they love and work on a lot. Traviss had Kal Skirata, Stackpole has Corran, Denning has Jaina, Zahn has Thrawn....

 

I've only read Onslaught and Ruin by Stackpole, but they are some of my favourite NJO books (Onslaught especially).

 

*curses*
and then *sadness*

I didn't know. OMG I didn't know.

Inside one month I found out not one, but two Star Wars authors passed away.

sigh.

 

I thought Denning had Saba, Tesar and the Barabels?

 

Boba Fett is a movie character rather than an EU character - and fairly "main" in some respects, given the amount of tie-in material that focuses on him. Yet he can still become a "pet" - a lot of people would say Fett is almost as much "Traviss's pet character" as Skirata is.

Or, he could be said to be K.W.Jeter's pet character, with the way Jeter handles him - having him hijack a KDY Super Star Destroyer, among other things.

The difference between "Jaina as portrayed by KJA in Young Jedi Knights" and "Jaina as portrayed by Denning" might be comparable to the difference between Boba Fett as portrayed by Lucas, and Boba Fett as portrayed by some other authors.

 

Jaina isn't Denning's pet character any more than Han & Leia are. He just uses her because she's there. You could however say that Jaina & Zekk are Troy Denning's pet team. When everyone else was going to the Jaina/Jag route Denning seemed to keep pushing Jaina/Zekk.

 

Jaina Zekk could have saved Jaina being the queen of the Empire. And I would have liked Jedi!forthepeople Jaina better than SithSympathizer!Jaina.

 

Get em Jello foire

In answer to your question he has just 4 lines in the whole OT and that's it.

"As you wish" - "He's no good to me dead" - "What if he doesn't survive, he's worth a lot to me" and finally "put Captain Solo in the cargo hold" and that's it, unless you count "arghh" in RTJ as he roles into the Sarlaac.

Seriously though, Fett was meant to be nothing more than a plot device used to get Han out the way. I.e so Fett takes him to Jabba. At the time of RTJ Lucas killed him off deliberately in a slapstick way, to say look, he's not that big a deal.

Of course the popularity of the character and potential Toy sales there meant things change and he went back to the well in the PT with Daddy Jango and TCW with planet full of Boba Fetts, which Disney Rebels are now carrying on.

 

they actually didn't get as much love from Denning as Jaina did... I mean she's largely untrained, her lightsaber skills leave a lot to be desired, she has next to no control over her emotions, and somehow she's not only killed a sith lord who is far more powerful than she is but she was also named a jedi master.... you think none of that was Denning's doing? I mean look at how many of the Barabels died. Saba and Tesar are friggin great. Jaina is op'd to the point of annoying.

 

so is Thrawn, but he's still Zahn's pet. So is Boba, but Karen Traviss loved him and Kal Skirata. So are Wedge Antilles and Tycho Celchu, and both Stackpole and Allston did well on them... need I go on?

 

huh?

also she's a fictional character depicted as how she is, this isn't a real life person who is being characterised inaccurately in a report. Complaining that her characterisation is off because she isn't supposed to be how she is in the books makes no sense.

Denning's Jedi are just more powerful in general, and Jaina is supposed to be one of the most powerful of them. She's the granddaughter of the Chosen One.

 

Star Wars actually is presented as (fictional) history, it happened a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away. Some people actually look at it that way, as historical, so perhaps it can be seen as a report of historical events.

The point of complaining about characterization is that certain characters already have well established characterization or line of development. Since Star Wars aims to maintain continuity (to some degree), it goes double for Star Wars.

Just because Troy Denning wrote it, doesn't make it "right". If Troy Denning wrote Luke Skywalker as a hateful, genocidal Nazi and Han Solo as a humorless, cowardly nerd who can't make a fist or flirt with a woman, then that's obviously inaccurate characterization.

Characters aren't real, but it's often better if you pretend they are; that way, you know, they come off as real. Jaina Solo had decades of prior development in-universe, and over a decade of development OOU, and that's not to be disregarded as meaningless.

Complaining about "inaccurate" characterization is perfectly justified.