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  1. LuBusVassal

    LuBusVassal Jedi Padawan star 4

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    The Place:Nar Shadda
    The Time:Between Episode III and Episode IV

    Crime is something that happens. When crime gets really ugly organized crime come in and bands the pickpockets and robbers into an army of very deadly warriors. Discworld's Lord Veternai once said "If you're going to have Organized Crime, organize it yourself". And that is exactly what you get to do. You will take control of a syndicate and lead it to greatness in the Nar Shadda underworld. But theres Rivals Gangs, too. The idea is to squash the opposition using robbery, blackmail, and hostile takeovers and be the only syndicate in all of Nar Shadda, certainly gaining control of one of the wealthiest sectors of the galaxy.

    Currently, Vader is hunting down the Jedi, so Masters and Knights would never be able to hide and be part of a Major Crime Syndicate. A simple adept maybe, but a full fledged Force user would have brouht Vader down on you and your syndicate like a gold weight on a simple cockroach.

    Fortunately for you, you don't have to start at the bottom. You start out as the leader of your syndicate and can have two to five executive officers. From there you can create anything else your crimanl heart desires. I will soon post the prefabricated syndicates. If you choose to create your own then you will have to play without the endorsement of the GM yours truley; in short you're starting with cero dinero.

    Name:
    Age:
    Species:
    -Species Traits: [regenerating limbs, Dew Claws]
    Gendar:
    ~Looks:
    --Hight:
    --Length: [species with a tale]
    --Skin/Fur/Feathers/Scale Color:
    --Facial Hair:
    --Clothing:
    --Miscellaneous: [Scars n stuff]
    ~Syndicate:
    --Position:
    --Syndicate Headquarters:
    --Location: [Where your character sleeps and works from]
    --Weapon of Choice:
    --Secondary Weapon:
    ~Jedi~ Only adepts
    --Skills: [five only]

    Bio: [a realistic biography please.]

    I'll post the syndicates soon.
     
  2. LuBusVassal

    LuBusVassal Jedi Padawan star 4

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    And Now, the Syndicates which you shall become, rule, and either plunge straight into the ground or lead to greatness.

    Hutts
    The most wealthy and influencial of all the crime organizations, the Hutts have been around since the beginning. Nar Shadda itself orbits their adopted Homeworld Nal Hutta, or Glorious Jewel. The Leading family is Jabba's in this case. The Hutts employ many lowlives as their run of the mill grunt, but most are horrible and bought in bulk. They use Gammoreans and Rodians for example; any species with a great natural greed or no union. They accel in bribing almost anyone with both their charisma and their actually billions in credits. They fall short in actual fighting.
    Credits:10,000,000,000
    Front:Hutt Cartel [Market]
    income:10,000 an (RP)day
    Grunts:100,000 strong

    The League
    The League is an organization that "protects" it's "clients" through the use of killing and robbery. A sneaky bunch, they have eluded the authorites for a long time by covering up all evidence pointing anything at them. They take the best and only the best, rvaling the Hutts for power. They accel in actual fighting and brains but fall short in doing anything stealthy. Uh... allright, so they're the Mafia.
    credits:5,000,000,000
    Front:Legion Real Estate and Insurance [Housing and Living]
    income:7,000 an (RP) day
    grunts:25,000

    The Empire
    No need for introduction, this is the local Law enforcement. They have the hardest job don't you think? They have the worst soldiers of the bunch, must be those tinted goggles stormies and Army Regualrs wear. Their funds are endless and they can go anywhere, though, so I guess it aint that bad. They accel in being able to go and do anything almost but they fall short in combat and brains.
    Credits:Endless
    Front:Local Law Enforcement [The Law]
    income:Don't need one
    Grunts:infinite Army Regualars, something thats even worse than a Stormy.

    The Dew Claw
    "We strike like a Dew Claw yet appear as harmless as the morning Dew" is their motto. They are the smallest syndicate on Nar Shadda and are obviously in a lower league than the Hutts or The League. Or so you'd think. They are the smartest and sneakiest of all the syndicates, using the least amount of money they can while still having the maximum punch. They recruit only those that show great skill in one field or another and try not to do anything that may involve combat, as they will normally be outnumbered. They perfer Assassination than hostile takeovers. They accel in anything that requires stealth and quite but fall short in credits.
    Credits:100,000,000
    Front:Yunchang Production [Commercial Item Making]
    income:4,000 an (RP) day
    Grunts:10,000

    Those are your Choices... and I'd very much like to play in it myself so I shall Lead The Dew Claw Syndicate:

    ~My Profile~
    Name: Lu Liang Shu [surname-givename format]
    Age: 24
    Species: Yevethan
    -Species Traits: Dew Claw in my hands.
    Gendar: Male
    ~Looks: Tall and Suspicous looking
    --Hight: 5'9"
    --Length: No tail
    --Skin/Fur/Feathers/Scale Color: Toy Soldier Tan
    --Facial Hair: none
    --Clothing: Black pants, grey shirt, and a black flowing trench coat
    --Miscellaneous: Scar under right eye
    ~Syndicate: Dew Claw
    --Position: Commander
    --Syndicate Headquarters: Under Yunchang Production's Main Building
    --Location: HQ
    --Weapon of Choice: H-27 Close Combat Dueling Blaster
    --Secondary Weapon: Dew Claws
    ~Jedi~ Only adepts
    --Skills: Not a Jedi

    Bio: Very Far from the core, Liang Shu's great great grandfather brought his family here after being outcasted from Yevethan Society, left to live with the vermin. His family has ever-since attempted to show that they are not vermin and worthy to be bruoght back into the Yevathan life. but to do so his family has been forced to work with the Vermin. Perhpas some Vermin are not so bad.
     
  3. corellian_chic242

    corellian_chic242 Jedi Knight star 6

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    hmmm. this looks interesting. i will get back to you when i come up with a character.
     
  4. LuBusVassal

    LuBusVassal Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Yay, I got someone!

    One thing I fergot, Bounty Hunters.

    Bounty Hunter's Guild
    They work for anyone with enough money yet have allegiances with no one. They are incredibly skilled but cost alot of credits. They usually specialize at certain things but there are some, like the Great Boba Fett, who will do all at a very high price. You'll get what you pay for. Bounty Hunters will go after a Bounty that is publicly posted in the Bounty Hunter's Guildhouse or work as a mercanary, setting their own prices for thei services.

    Now, Hows That
     
  5. Viceroy Rook

    Viceroy Rook Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Hey, sounds cool; this will be my first RPG, so bear with me...

    Name: Kaios
    Age: 28
    Species: Zabrak
    -Species Traits: tougher and stronger-willed than other humanoids; have short horns
    Gendar: Male
    ~Looks:
    --Hight: 6'0"
    --Skin/Fur/Feathers/Scale Color: tan
    --Facial Hair: black stubble on chin
    --Clothing: combat jumpsuit with SW equivelant of Kevlar protecting torso, forearms, lower legs
    --Miscellaneous: emerald eyes; squarish jaw; lean but somewhat muscular build--it has potential but is not fully developed
    ~Syndicate: merc; but does work for the League often
    --Position: freelance; typically grunt or bodyguard
    --Syndicate Headquarters:
    --Location: wherever his employer puts him; otherwise he has a room in a fairly secure (for Nar Shadda) hotel
    --Weapon of Choice: blaster carbine
    --Secondary Weapon: twin small blasters; wide-bladed vibroknife; fists and feet; has few personal resources
    ~Bio: I'll have to get back to you...
     
  6. MoronDude

    MoronDude Jedi Knight star 6

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    Nov 1, 2000
    Name: Morl Wetagg
    Age: 27
    Species: Duros
    -Species Traits: Very adept in piloting and astrogating.
    Gendar: Male
    ~Looks:
    --Hight: 5' 10"
    --Skin Color: Blue
    --Facial Hair: none
    --Clothing: Padded Flight Suit (Dark Grey)
    ~Syndicate: The Hutts
    --Position: Smuggler
    --Syndicate Headquarters: Nal Hutta
    --Location: Ord Mantell
    --Weapon of Choice: Heavy Blaster Pistol
    --Secondary Weapon: Vibroblade

    Bio: Morl Wetagg is a smuggler from Ord Mantell. He works exclusivly for the Hutts, smuggling everything from weapons to spice. A very skilled pilot, he can usually get away from any persuer. He has a custom frieghter called The Jump Jockey. He prefers to work alone and he is happiest when he's smuggling an important cargo.
     
  7. MadameBastet

    MadameBastet Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Apr 9, 2002
    Name: Cirani Hancas
    Age: 30
    Species: Byrian Fairy (a creation of my own)
    -Species Traits: Wings, allowing flight, if necessary. They can make themselves a darker color if needed.
    Gender: Female
    ~Looks:
    --Height: 4 ft. 6 in.
    --Skin/Fur/Feathers/Scale Color: pale blue
    --Hair: slightly darker blue
    --Clothing: black boots, brown pants, tan tunick, specially made black cloak that allows her wings to be out when she needs to use them, hidden when she doesn't.
    --Miscellaneous: [Scars n stuff]
    ~Syndicate: Dew Claw
    --Position: Lieutenant
    --Syndicate Headquarters: Under Yunchang Production's Main Building
    --Location: HQ
    --Weapon of Choice: Vibroblade
    --Secondary Weapon: Blaster

    Bio: When Cirani was young, she was kidnapped from her homeworld, Byria(located in the unknown regions), by a man who wanted to keep her as an exotic 'pet'. She eventually found an opportunity to kill him and she escaped, living on the streets of Nar Shadda. She was found by a member of one of the gangs, and soon learned how to survive. She was taught how to set explosives and use a lock opener, but she found she enjoyed killing beings that she believed needed to be killed.
    Eventually, she was recruited by the Dew Claw Sindicate, and became a Lieutenant in it's ranks.


    I hope this is good enough. I wanted to be in a group where I am told what I need to accomplish, Commander Lu Liang Shu. Cirani does prefer to walk, rather than fly. She keeps her wings as a 'wild card'. ;)
     
  8. LuBusVassal

    LuBusVassal Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Wahooni!!! I mean, good, some people are joining. When we get someone to head one of the other organizations we can start.
     
  9. Viceroy Rook

    Viceroy Rook Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Okay, I think I have a bio...

    Born and raised on Iridonia as are most Zabraks, Kaios was orphaned at the age of ten and spent the next year scrounging around in a spaceport city before being taken in by another Zabrak, a mercenary who taught Kaios his trade along with some teras kasi he happened to know. Eleven years later this benefactor died when he was caught in the middle of a bar brawl in which blasters were drawn. Kaios mourned for a time but soon took up the merc trade alone. He owns his benefactor's twin blaster pistols and ship (the Pouncing Tiger), a combat jumpsuit, a vibroblade, and a light repeating blaster carbine cobbled together from various parts to combine Naboo aesthetic quality with tech specialist-provided efficiency. Kaios is currently quite broke. The Tiger isn't even fueled up. He'll need to work planetside for awhile before he can go anywhere. Fortunately he's stranded on a planet he's familiar with, where he's done many jobs for a crime syndicate known as The League.
     
  10. Theron

    Theron Jedi Master star 4

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    Oct 23, 2000
    I wish to join

    Name: Sonny
    Age: 48
    Species: Human
    --Species Traits:
    --Gender: Male
    --Looks: Lean & Stylish
    --Hieght: 6'5"
    --Skin/Fur/Feathers/Scale Color: brown
    --Facial Hair: non
    --Clothing: Wears the latest styles (all stolen) but also wears body armor under clothing.
    --Miscellaneous: Military tattoos on wrist and shoulders.
    --Syndicate: The League
    --Position: Captain
    --Syndicate Headquarters: The Marshlands Social Club (Corellia)
    --Location: Based primarly on Corellia, but has businesses that he controls in other parts of the galaxy including Nar Shadda.
    --Weapon of Choice: Vibroknives
    --Secondary Weapon: twin small blasters; Wrist Blasters; martial arts; thermal detonators, has a few personal resources.

    ~Bio: Former member of the Imperial Special Forces, who was later court-martialed for treason, was sent off to Kessel but on the way there, he and a few others escaped the transport ship with the help of two unknown starfighters. He will later find out they were working for The League in rescuing one of there top men. After this new lease on life he would start work as a freelance assassin whose specialty was explosives, he was also a good marksman. He was one of the few League silent assassins and known as a good money maker which allowed for his rise in the League eventually becoming a Captain in control of several hitmen and rackets across the galaxy. He is known to have an unstable personality that is often unpredictable and violent. Although he respects other Syndicates, he is always in trouble with some of their members and even fellow League members, because of his unstable personality. One League Captain said this of him "Sonny's problem is he is always abusing someone. The guy is just totally obnoxious, to him everyone is his errand boy." He is wanted by the Empire for theft, high-jacking, extortion, illegal gambling, and countless murders.
     
  11. LuBusVassal

    LuBusVassal Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Oct 27, 2002
    Oh... hrm... Perhaps I should make a notice...

    This RPG takes place on Nar Shadda and partly on Nal Hutta, at least for now. Until this RPG begins to "fly" then I'll keep it on these two planets and maybe an orbting space station to keep it under control.

    Now that that is said could some people change some things in their profiles?
     
  12. MoronDude

    MoronDude Jedi Knight star 6

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    UPDATED BIO:
    Morl Wetagg is a smuggler from Ord Mantell. He works exclusivly for the Hutts, smuggling everything from weapons to spice. A very skilled pilot, he can usually get away from any persuer. He has a custom frieghter called The Jump Jockey. He prefers to work alone and he is happiest when he's smuggling an important cargo. He is currently on Nar Shadda to pick up a shipment bound for Fondor.
     
  13. Viceroy Rook

    Viceroy Rook Jedi Youngling star 3

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    If it's alright, I'd like to make some changes to Kaios; partly because I changed my mind about a few things, partly to clarify some things, and partly because I wanted to borrow Theron's idea of a wrist blaster as a secondary weapon (hope you don't mind)...

    Name: Kaios
    Age: 28
    Species: Zabrak
    -Species Traits: tougher and stronger-willed than other humanoids; have short horns
    Gendar: Male
    ~Looks: sometimes quietly confident, other times just gloomy
    --Height: 6'0"
    --Skin Color: tan
    --Facial Hair: black stubble on chin
    --Clothing: tan and gray combat jumpsuit woven with composite fibers for added protection; protective vest, forearm bracers, and boots of a tougher composite material to provide some measure of protection against glancing blaster bolts; hood attached to jumpsuit for minor weather disturbances
    --Miscellaneous: emerald eyes; squarish jaw; lean but somewhat muscular build
    ~Syndicate: freelance; however, often does League work
    --Position: gun-for-hire; typically does bodyguard work
    --Syndicate Headquarters: I dunno...
    --Location: wherever his employer puts him; he lives in his ship, the Pouncing Tiger
    --Weapon of Choice: twin blaster pistols (think Jango, only Kaios obviously isn't quite up to par by Mandalorian standards)
    --Secondary Weapon: wrist blaster (just one, on his right forearm); Wookie rykk (sp?) blade; fists and feet
    ~Bio: Born to an adventurous Zabrak single mother, Kaios was about seven when said mother died on a daredevil quest--they were on Kashyyk at the time, and the Wookies took him in, teaching him survival techniques and some basic soldiering and piloting skills; fortunately they had translator droids, though he learned to understand Shriywook (sp?) well enough after some time. When he was 17 he left Kashyyk with some Wookie friends who decided to find some adventure elsewhere in the galaxy. When the Wookies began to be enslaved by the Empire he and his friends foolishly tried to make a difference on Kashyyk; only he survived the outcome, with a grudge against the Empire. Now 28 years old, Kaios is a bit wiser, and a bit more skilled--apart from being a fairly skilled gunslinger, he knows how to use the rykk blade he was given as a gift before leaving Kashyyk the first time, and has also picked up some teras kasi skills in the past few years since losing his friends. The custom light freighter they rode in is now Kaios' alone, though he never changed its name from The Pouncing Tiger. Unfortunately, Kaios is currently quite broke and the Tiger isn't even fueled up. Fortunately, being stranded on Nar Shadda isn't so bad; he's done work for the League in the past, and doing so has given him the opportunity to strike against the Empire in small ways...
     
  14. Theron

    Theron Jedi Master star 4

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    Oct 23, 2000
    Sure

    --Syndicate Headquarters: The New Marshlands Club (Nar Shadda)
    --Location: HQ

    ~Extra Bio: Originally based on Corellia, Sonny had to flee on the urging of the League's leader because attracting a little to much attention from the Empire and Coronet. He now resides full time on Nar Shadda, although at peace at this time with the other Syndicates he hopes to oust the Hutts and take Nar Shadda as his own, and destroy anyone else who gets in his way.
     
  15. LuBusVassal

    LuBusVassal Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Now, who thinks we should start now?
     
  16. Viceroy Rook

    Viceroy Rook Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Jun 19, 1999
    I just remembered that I won't be able to go online next week, so I guess until I get back Kaios will be away on a current bodyguarding assignment his superiors gave him a little while ago. But yeah, go ahead and start.
    Just one minor question: is the Marshlands Club the HQ of the League and Sonny its leader, or is Sonny a sub-leader granted ownership of a social club for customers of Legion Real Estate? I just need to know if Kaios reports directly to Sonny or someone else.
     
  17. LuBusVassal

    LuBusVassal Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Well, thats a question for Theron and yah, you'll be off guarding something/one. Thats actually a good idea. If you need to got a vacation or something just leave the planet for some reason. Good idea VR.

    Can I change my skin color to light brown?

    EDIT: Oh, I'm the GM, I fergot, I can change almost everything I want. I got light brown skin, haha.
     
  18. MadameBastet

    MadameBastet Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Apr 9, 2002
    While we're on that topic, I think you all should know that for now, I can only get on-line on mondays thru thursdays. I am working on getting a computer at home with Internet access, but I don't have it yet. If this starts now, on Monday, I should be able to know where Cirani is.
     
  19. Coota

    Coota Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Nov 2, 2002
    Name: Major Johan Treyers
    Age: 35
    Species: Human
    -Species Traits: None
    Gender: Male
    ~Looks:
    --Height: 6'3
    --Length: n/A
    --Skin/Fur/Feathers/Scale Color: Dark black skin; he's from a world with high radiation content. Dark black hair.
    --Facial Hair: Sometimes a five'o clock shadow
    --Clothing: At home base, the Sector Ranger uniform; when in the field, usually civilian clothing of varying cuts, from dress suits to a pilots trousers and shirt to a bounty hunters armor. All depends on the job.
    --Miscellaneous:
    ~Syndicate: Empire; the Imperial Sector Rangers
    --Position: Major, commander of the Sector Rangers Nar Shaddaa and Nal Hutta branch office.
    --Syndicate Headquarters: Top levels of Nar Shaddaa; Empire HQ is in Coruscant.
    --Location: Sector Ranger System HQ, top levels of Nar Shaddaa
    --Weapon of Choice: DL-44 Heavy blaster pistol
    --Secondary Weapon: stun-baton
    ~Jedi~ Not a Jedi

    --Skills(only five):
    Investigation: An expert investigator, Johan knows what to look for in a crime scene, and what not to look for. He can read the data stream from the fluff, and find out what's really going on. One of the only men who can actually get info out of a Hutt just by asking the right questions.
    Streetwise: he knows who to talk to and how to get the word on the street. Blends in with the common scum, or hobknobs with the aristocratic criminals, all to find out what's going on where.
    Gunman: A skilled shot, he can draw a blaster and put the shot where it needs to go.
    Leadership: Knows where to send his men and how to keep their spirits up. He's good at what he does, which is curtailing the criminal presence in Nar Shaddaa, despite resistance from his Imperial overlords and the Hutts, and his people appreciate this.
    Persuasion: Can convince people to do favors for him, favors that he needs in order to try and maintain law and order in the most lawless place in the universe. Is very good at talking various criminal elements into helping him do his job, in exchange for laying off of them for a while. The criminals see him as a way to get rid of competition, and he sees the criminals as just extremely short sighted; they forget that he'll be coming after them eventually.

    Bio: Johan Treyers was born the son of two Soccoran pirates who had gone off into the galaxy. They loved him, and they wanted something better for him than a life of crime. So they gave up their lawless ways and sent him to school. He grew up believing in law and order, but not Imperial law and order; he believed the hype about equal justice for everyone, rich or poor, human or alien. His parents taught him well that every being was equally important. This is what led him to become a law enforcement officer, because he believed it was the best way to protect those who could not protect themselves against those who would take equality away; criminals, slavers, etc. He doesn't like the Empire, but he sees them as a neccessary evil; they bring order to the galaxy, an order the Republic was not able to provide, and he believes he can use their resources to carry out his dreams. He aspires to being Director of the Sector Rangers.

    The Imperial Sector Rangers: Nar Shaddaa Branch
    Credits: Whatever the Empire allocates to them. Depends on how they perform, and how well they keep out of Imperial criminal business.
    Income: Again, Imperial allocation.
    Front: Not a Front; they're the law, and Johan believes in order.
    Grunts: Sector Rangers; they know what they're doing when it comes to crime, and are mostly veterans, but there are only two hundred at the Nar Shaddaa system branch, and it's hard to get more.
     
  20. Theron

    Theron Jedi Master star 4

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    Oct 23, 2000
    No the Marshlands Club is just my headquarters not the main HQ which is the Legion Real Estate, I'm just a sub-leader. Yeah you report to me or one of my men who is a member of the League.
     
  21. LuBusVassal

    LuBusVassal Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Theron, you get to be the Leader of the League, if you want. We need someone to lead it, unless you both want to have an NPC do it, in which case you can make him tell you to do anything you want.

    As of now the Current rosters stand
    Empire Rangers: Major Johan Treyers, human Male [Coota]

    Hutts: TBA

    League: Sonny, human male [Theron]; Kaios, zabrak male [Vicory Rook]

    Dew Claw: Lu Liang Shu, yevethan male [ME!]; Cirani Hancas, Byrian Fairy female [MadameBastet]

    Plus Coota, The "Skills" part of the sign up sheet are for the Jedi, as in Jedi skills? You can still keep those skills, just you didn't have to write them down 8-}
     
  22. Goo_Child

    Goo_Child Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Jul 31, 2002
    Name: Gooda
    Age: 369
    Species: Hutt
    -Species Traits:
    Gendar: n/a (acts like male)
    ~Looks:
    --Hight: 6 ft
    --Length: 8 ft.
    --Skin/Fur/Feathers/Scale Color: Dark Blue
    --Facial Hair: n/a
    --Clothing: n/a
    --Miscellaneous: Scar just to the right of his right eye
    ~Syndicate: Hutts
    --Position: Leader
    --Syndicate Headquarters: Nal Hutta
    --Location: Nal Hutta
    --Weapon of Choice: Dark Jedi bodyguard
    --Secondary Weapon: lightsaber
    ~Jedi~ Only adepts
    --Skills: lightning, Speed, push, move object, choke

    Bio: Gooda is really a Dark Jedi Master. He was one of Yoda's first student's. Then he fell to the dark side about 100 years before the clone wars. He found a Force user female Twi'lek and converted her to the Dark Side. She is now his bodyguard. Gooda does not have the fat rolls of most Hutts. He is taller and longer than most of his species, and is musclure. He will only draw his red bladed lightsaber when he need to.
     
  23. Coota

    Coota Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Nov 2, 2002
    I thought Hutts couldn't use the Force, because of their unique physiology that also renders them immune to most of its effects.
     
  24. Goo_Child

    Goo_Child Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Jul 31, 2002
    No, I've seen pics of Leia fighting a Dark Jedi who was a Hutt. He was also very fit and not like most Hutts. So HA!
     
  25. Coota

    Coota Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Nov 2, 2002
    Where, exactly? This is entirely out of curiousity, to tell you the truth; I'd love to see a picture like that ;)

     
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