CT OT in 3D, Disney will upgrade the Special Effects?

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  1. welles76 Jedi Padawan

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    I would like to know, if you thinked Disney will upgrade the special effects of the OT in 3D, to match much more with the ST.

    i know the Upgrade angle was Lucas thing... but Disney?
  2. P.Sam Jedi Master

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    We simply don't know what Lucasfilm/Disney intend to do in that regard. It may yet be on the table. In my opinion it's already something big to have the OT in 3D. I am not necesserely against upgrading the special effects but since it would be my first time seeing the OT in a theater, I should want to see the films unaltered.


    Edit: Lucasfilm cancelled the 3D release of AOTC and ROTS. I would not ruled out the OT to be released one day but probably in a long time from now.
    Last edited by P.Sam, Jan 28, 2013
  3. Team Padme Force Ghost

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    Even more changes to the OT? Let's hope not.
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  4. ObiAlKenobi Jedi Grand Master

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    No more changes are needed. The effects still hold up. I'll take the OT over the flashy, overdone, fake looking PT any day :)
  5. janstett Force Ghost

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    I'd rather see most of the "upgrades" reverted as they stick out and the CG is poor. I have the extended Landspeeder entry into Mos Eisley in mind. They've already revised that scene twice and they're both terrible and off-model.

    Also I think the Jabba scene in ANH is terrible, Jabba is completely too small, off model, and goofy looking, and the scene is just awkward. Lose it and leave it as a bonus scene in the extras.

    I am all for the matte line cleanups, etc.

    One thing that has always baffled me is the way some obvious errors remain through all the tweaks (such as the plans for the Death Star being wrong, or Vader's Tie Fighter being used on the rebels' tactical displays when it is COMPLETELY UNIQUE IN THE GALAXY and he hasn't even launched yet). The arbitrary changes -- like Luke screaming when he jumps off the tower and then removing it again the next time -- while not fixing these glaring problems, convinced me Lucas was just screwing with us.
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  6. EHT New Films Manager

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    I am OK with most of the changes made as of the 2004 DVD release; that is to say, the SE minus some of the dumb things they never should have added when they released the SE in '97, such as the aforementioned Luke screaming when he fell on Bespin. That was not a small change when they added it in '97, because it seemed to change Luke's personality by making the fall an accident. Luckily they reversed that thinking and removed the scream on the 2004 DVDs.

    Other than that, I agree that cleaning up matte lines and fixing colors should be the top priority. The Blu-Rays took the pointless changes category a step further with things like blinking ewoks, more rocks in front of R2, and a larger door at Jabba's palace.
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  7. HanSolo29 Manager Emeritus + Official Star Wars Artist

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    I don't know, Disney doesn't really have a track record for that sort of thing.

    If changes are made to any future releases, I think they would be cosmetic only, such as cleaning up the picture and sound.
    Last edited by HanSolo29, Jan 31, 2013
  8. _Catherine_ Force Ghost

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    When is Disney releasing the original unedited Fantasia and Song of the South?
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  9. Bushy162 Jedi Knight

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    ILM is superior to Disney in terms of realism. However there will be things Disney will do better like the complexity of the animations. Combined, they will make a jolly good team.
  10. Lord Chazza Force Ghost

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    Well assuming that they there's 3 years between each release then 7 will be in 2015, 8 will be in 2018 and 9 will be in 2021. Then there's the spin-offs that will probably take up much of the 2020's. Then they've gotta to do 2 and 3 in 3d which were recently cancelled so by my logic I'd say a 3d OT is due in the mid 2030s.
  11. GunganSlayer Jedi Grand Master

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    If they do intend to at some point to re-release the OT in 3D (or AOTC or ROTS), it's not necessary to do it on a yearly basis. Star Wars SE was released in January and pulled a very impressive near $140 million domestic total. (It also blew out the January opening weekend record by more than double, and held the best opening January weekend record for over a decade). ESB SE was released about a month latter, (awesome enough, SW SE was Number 2 that wknd) and pulled in about $70, with ROTJ SE some weeks later and ending with some $45 million. The weekend of ROTJ saw all SW movies in the Top 10 box office in the weekend, pretty cool, hm?

    The Special Edition release worked quite well, and for being releases of older films, pulled in a pretty nice sum. Obviously, this reignited SW craze in the general public. The EU was picking up steam, toys and merchandise were all over the place, and the promise of new SW films were on the horizon. Will Disney release the films again? Hard to say, but it wouldn't surprise me if they did do a similar release pattern as was done with the SE, and I also wouldn't be surprised if they just ditched the 3D conversions for the OT.

    Something to also keep in mind is the foreign box office. The landscape is totally different now than it was back in 1997. A good majority of films (usually blockbusters, action/adventure/fantasy/animated films/etc) earn most of their revenue from overseas markets. Releasing in the OT around the globe again could bring in a nice sum of cash, while also serving as a lead in to the ST.

    We shall see. Oh, and to answer the actual question of the thread (lol), no, I don't think we'll see any visual upgrades, apart from restoration and clean-up work. I think with Lucas out of the picture, additions to the PT and OT are no more.
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  12. I Are The Internets Chosen One

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  13. Jarren_Lee-Saber Force Ghost

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    The more edits to the effects, the better!
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  14. Jarren_Lee-Saber Force Ghost

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    BRILLIANT! I'm using this as my signature - if you don't mind?
  15. BW2 Jedi Master

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    The thread title is wrong, only ILM itself can upgrade ILM effects.
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  16. DARTHSHAME Force Ghost

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    Well, you may be waiting a long time for Song of the South, given the political correctness of today. Many found the movie offensive to African-Americans. Disney will likely stay away it. I hear it is available in parts of Europe though.
  17. StoneRiver Force Ghost

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    to come out just prior to the reboot? :p
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  18. Legolas Skywalker Force Ghost

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    Well, the 3D releases were canceled so no special effects :p
  19. darth_mccartney Force Ghost

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    Hope so. Get rid of all the stop motion animation!
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  20. Klingon Padawan Jedi Master

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    Hopefully yes. I like how Vader's suit looked shiny in ROTS, compared to the raw, worn out looking appearance of Vader's suit in the OT. In the OT, it looks nowhere near as shiny and refined as it did in ROTS. I hope that in the future OT special editions, they upgrade the graphics to make Vader's suit match they way it looked during ROTS.
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  21. janstett Force Ghost

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    Leave the damned movies alone. Do you want to colorize and eliminate stop motion from 1933's King Kong too?

    Ray Harryhausen and Phil Tippet's memories spit in your general direction. Oh and replace puppet Yoda with digital Yoda in the OT while you're at it.
  22. darth_mccartney Force Ghost

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    I honestly wouldn't mind that. If Lucas ever wanted to do it, I say go for it!
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  23. Jarren_Lee-Saber Force Ghost

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    I'm dreaming of the day they do that!
  24. janstett Force Ghost

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    Sounds like you'd probably prefer a wholesale reboot then.
  25. darth_mccartney Force Ghost

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    Oh gawd no, just update the special effects (replace stop motion animation and puppet yoda etc with CGI)
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