Saga OT or PT?

It is funny because

a) the sample size is so small
b) this forum is probably biased

The numbers here don't tell us much.

 

Consider this: Does Luke as frog-creature really change the film or your view on it?

And? Does that invalidate the votes?

What?! I don't see the connection between preferences and bias and I especially don't see the relevance of "bias" considering the thread's question.
You're abviously biased concerning the forums, however.

Of course the numbers tells us something, they tell us the preferences of the users on this forums in this very thread and therefore answer the question ("to find out what people prefer on these forums").
If you're looking for "the truth" (the thread doesn't and I wouldn't advise you to do so), you certainly won't find it anywhere on the internet.

 

Nope. It only tells us we can't draw any conclusions from this.

I know a couple Star Wars forums and this seems to be the one with the largest percentage of PT fans. Does this observation make me biased? I don't give a hoot.

 

Yes. Of course it would... I don't even know why you brought this up. No film maker in the right mind would expect the audience to emotionally connect with a character like that. Even the fans of Jar Jar Binks wouldn't go so far as to say that they would enjoy the OT as much if he had the starring role.

Side note: In an animated film (like in nearly all pixar films) it is easy to make a non-human principal character connect with the audience; you do this by making the world they live in a caricature, and by highlighting the characters' human features as much as possible (behaviour, speech, eyes and mouth etc). This just isn't (at least, in 1997, wouldn't have been) possible in a live action movie, with a 'realistic' setting, when half the cast are human actors and your principal is a puppet.

 

And I think that's a huge assumption to make. 38 voters on a Star Wars board of many can never be representative of all Star Wars fans.

 

Harcore fans don't always post on forums. Not all hardcore fans like this forum. So no, not at all representative.

 

Polling is dirty democracy.

 

Regarding Star Wars? Nope.

 

It's absolutely beautiful to see that, even with so many votes so far, the poll is at 50:50 as of this post. Balance has been brought to the Force. Some faith in humanity restored

 

I'm still waiting for the relevance since the OP asked for preferences on this forum.

That doesn't answer my question.

That's just my point.
It wouldn't change anything about the film, about it's message, it's story and the nature of its characters. Luke just wouldn't be human, he would be "different" and that would obviously lead some people to a lesser enjoyement of the film (that is basically the same).
So, and that's my point, the thing that would chance is your view on the film and not the film itself.

Because I thought it would be interesting to think about that.

 

Why is that even relevant? I commented on Darth_Nubs post how it was "appropriate" that both OT and PT got 50% votes. Personally I don't give a damn how popular the OT or PT is on this board. It is of no interest to me.

 

I voted OT. That isn't to say that I dislike the PT, there is much that I enjoy. Some of the visuals are stunning; I love the convergence toward Guinness' Obi-Wan as performed by Ewan McGregor, and some of the scenes in ROTS are among my favoutrites of the entire 'saga'. Somebody mentioned John Williams' score and...in that case I would say that ROTS is my favourite in that regard - there is such a range of emotionally charged pieces, all very, very different. Just glorious.

My only problem, having been inculcated in the OT is that there is much introduced in the PT that jars with my tale on the OT. If I see it as a saga then I must 'pretend' some of the PT out of existence. Just my own personal take. Don't take this as an order to see it my way

 

Then why are you still here, raining on everyone's parade?

 

If a truly scientific poll were done by an organization like Gallup, I would trust that.

 

Personally, I like the OT...the Phantom Menace was a step in the right direction for the PT being just as good, but the killing off of Qui-Gon Jinn and Darth Maul took away from a greater purpose that they could have served as in the future installments. Also, I'm not that big of a fan of depressing movies or storylines for that matter, and in my opinion, after watching Revenge of the Sith again recently I looked at it as being just as sad as what has happened in the EU. Also, I really miss people dressing the parts of Ewoks, wookies and such as that's what fans do at comic-con...but the PT was pretty much all CGI. Even the models of spaceships in the OT used to be just that, models...whereas the PT was again CGI...

 

OT. Original Trilogy, the Classic, the One and Only. For me, that is.

 

Was I? I only remember pointing out that this thread seems rather pointless and then being engaged into discussion by various people.

 

The Saga. To choose one over the other would be to leave an equally important half of the story behind.

 

I'm pretty sure the PT used just as much modeling as the original movies. You are correct when you say the PT used more CG, but you'd probably be surprised how much costumes and modeling that the crew did, including the use of miniature sets.

 

Thank-you for the new insight, as it's always cool to learn more about Star Wars....

The reason I thought that all of the PT was CGI and not costumes and models was because I think that Jar Jar, the spaceships (especially in Revenge of the Sith), the wookies, the other Gungans, etc. were all CGI...and that's like 90% of the movie(s) right there...

Also, I think that George Lucas filmed in location for Tatooine in the OT, whereas in the Attack of the Clones (where they chase Zam Wessel) that was all CGI, and in...ummm...Phantom Menace all of the underwater scenes were also CGI...

This is what I'd heard anyway, but don't know for sure...

 

I have heard this statement before and it is very misleading, simply because the OT only used a few environments for all 3 movies, and most of the real envrionments and sets are from TPM, whereas AOTC and ROTS are mostly CGI. If you watch most of the behind the scenes material for the PT (documentaries, pictures, etc.) AOTC and ROTS are almost all green screen, as I rarely saw a real shot in a real environment, whereas TPM has many real shots without green screen.

 

The sets usually have green/blue screen because models will be added as background. They built quite a few CG models, yes, but it's still easier and more cost-efficient for them to do it physically, so that's what they tend to do most of the time.
In the end, what matters is the end result and IMO, most, if not all, of it looks amazing.





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