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OOC Out of Bounds (The ELL OOC Thread)

Discussion in 'Role Playing Resource' started by Trieste, Sep 2, 2012.

  1. Bardan_Jusik

    Bardan_Jusik Mand'alor - Manager of EUC, SWC and Anthology/BtS star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I love the idea. [face_whistling]

    My only concern would be adding yet another element for Trieste to keep track of.

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  2. Jedi Gunny

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    Not to mention that the flexibility could eventually rip off teams who trade good players and get middling picks in return on what should have been an investment of a good (1st round) pick.
     
  3. jcgoble3

    jcgoble3 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Well, nobody ever said you can only offer conditional picks. If you think the player is worth an early first-rounder and you're willing to give that up, then just offer a straight first-rounder (or demand one in your counteroffer).
     
  4. Bardan_Jusik

    Bardan_Jusik Mand'alor - Manager of EUC, SWC and Anthology/BtS star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Yeah this is just another option to help protect a team from getting fleeced while granting the opportunity for some interesting trades. Of course if a team gets fleeced, that's their fault too. :p

    Frankly I like the options this gives us, though I wonder how often it would actually be used.

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  5. CPL_Macja

    CPL_Macja Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Every season I can con... I mean negotiate it with someone :)

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  6. Runjedirun

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    This means I'd have to assign contracts to my players. Something I have been considering anyway...I just need a reason like this to motivate me.
     
  7. Jedi Gunny

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    We assume that the contract are already in place in the game. I never really give financial terms anyways in my game; too complicated when credits really aren't a factor.
     
  8. Bardan_Jusik

    Bardan_Jusik Mand'alor - Manager of EUC, SWC and Anthology/BtS star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I never give financial terms for my contracts, I don't want to get involved in the economics of the future of the GFFA. I do have contract lengths for all my players though.

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  9. jcgoble3

    jcgoble3 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I think I was the first to specify contract lengths. Without specified lengths, you have the freedom to release players to free agency whenever you want, or whenever it fits your storyline, since players are assumed to be under contracts with undisclosed terms, which is the way it was done before I started the trend of specified lengths.

    Sometimes I regret starting that trend. :p
     
  10. Jedi Gunny

    Jedi Gunny Yahtzee Host star 9 VIP - Game Host

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    Curse you! :p You forced us to actually make this game about strategy!

    (While I ignore the fact that I was the first to do a ton of different things that added unnecessary complexity to the game)
     
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  11. Bardan_Jusik

    Bardan_Jusik Mand'alor - Manager of EUC, SWC and Anthology/BtS star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    You only regret it when there is a clerical error.

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  12. jcgoble3

    jcgoble3 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    And then there are occasions where I love having started that trend. [face_laugh]
     
  13. Runjedirun

    Runjedirun March Madness Bracket Challenge Winner star 6 VIP - Game Winner

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    Yea I don't have any type of contracts, even length, but they would be simple enough to make up :p
     
  14. Jedi Gunny

    Jedi Gunny Yahtzee Host star 9 VIP - Game Host

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    Contract Length: 294, with a team option for 295

    Yep, not realistic at all. :p Except the NHL teams keep trying to do this.
     
  15. Trieste

    Trieste Force Ghost star 5

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    Only if you wanted to take advantage of these sorts of conditional draft pick trades. It sounds like there's pretty broad support to enable this. Whether people will take advantage of it is up for debate. However, it does suddenly occur to me that this could also tie the hands of teams--if your conditional pick ties up, for example, your first or your second pick in a given round, I would have to veto trades involving either of those draft picks until the conditions are revealed. I'll give the remainder of today before saying one way or another since not everyone has had an opportunity to sound off.

    Also, as GM/Commissioner I might have to reserve the right to veto a trade where the conditional terms seem unreasonable. And for teams who are leery of them...well don't make those trades. :D
     
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  16. Jedi Gunny

    Jedi Gunny Yahtzee Host star 9 VIP - Game Host

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    Conditional picks are a risk. That's the name of the game with them.
     
  17. Rebecca_Daniels

    Rebecca_Daniels Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I'm in favour, though I'm not sure I'll ever use it. Having trouble dealing with trades mostly because I don't have any way to study a player's background :p

    And I don't know when my draft pick time expires but I'll be another couple hours still at least. Just have my phone now which makes it hard to write up a post and look at draft listings.
     
  18. Trieste

    Trieste Force Ghost star 5

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    Actually you have until the end of day Sunday because we sped up super fast yesterday. However, if you were able to do a post earlier it would be a big help to Jedi Gunny who might have things a bit tight on his schedule draft day. No pressure though. I'll make things work for Gunny one way or another. :)

    --EDIT--

    Get with it NHL!!!! We had a "super 16" before you did!
     
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  19. Jedi Gunny

    Jedi Gunny Yahtzee Host star 9 VIP - Game Host

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    That's because we're awesome. :cool: And because we did it first.
     
  20. CPL_Macja

    CPL_Macja Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    So what exactly did Justice Eldred do... because in theory couldn't Vesper fall into the same circumstances?

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  21. Jedi Gunny

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    I think this is the reason why I'm glad Talon didn't get played for more than one season. Too much legal stuff to process. 8-}
     
  22. Rebecca_Daniels

    Rebecca_Daniels Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Just about to get my post and pick up but Trieste is/was there a time limit on releasing players to free agency? Because I have a few I meant to drop and move around within the system and haven't really had time to sort that out until just now.
     
  23. Jedi Gunny

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    You should be fine on that. Just PM him the moves you want to make.
     
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  24. Trieste

    Trieste Force Ghost star 5

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    There actually isn't a deadline for declaring free agents. Any time prior to the start of the season works! We all understand some people are on different schedules.
     
  25. Vehn

    Vehn Jedi Master star 4

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    I like the compensation system in the NFL, but see, I'm pretty biased.