ST Overall public response to new characters - your thoughts?

EPIC rant, Besides a few minor points... one them being Adam Driver miscast... I think he is perfect... but EPIC freakin rant nontheless

 

Alan Rickman and Adam Driver look NOTHING like each other... Ren's costume, and Snape's costume resemble

 

Kylo is the type of guy that when you're around him, you're always on your toes, where one little ill-received comment will make him snap. Vader on the other-hand was like a top of the tree gangster.

 

This. Frankly, I don't understand the comparison. Driver and Rickman look nothing alike and Kylo and Snape look nothing alike other than the fact they have black hair and wear long black robe like costumes. That's it. The characters act differently, move differently and have completely different personalities.

 

The new characters seem to be well liked by my friends and family.

Rey and BB8 seemed to be most people's favourites.

My brother in laws only problem was Rey appearing so powerful in the force so quickly,but he is interested to find out in the next films if that may be explained.

My brother found kylo to be too weak in comparison,but did like the character overall.

A work colleague did not like the Maz character at all,he said she was a poor version of Yoda.

I'd say this new generation of characters have hit the mark with most hardcore and casual fans.

 

I wonder if the general public even know their names .

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I don't get it. Han and Leia kissing/ having a romance in TESB wasn't seen as political. Why should Poe and Finn be seen that way? Am I missing something?

 

My daughter and I are the only hardcore SW fans among my friends and family, and my group of 10ish that I first saw the movie with had a whole conversation around Hux's ridiculous, entertaining Nazi speech. I don't recall anyone disliking it. The consensus seemed to be that it was funny and realistic. Propaganda speeches are OTT. I also personally loved it because it reminded me of Inglorious Basterds.

 

pffft! Finn wishes!

 

I don't think there is any question that people generally love the characters. That bodes well for the popularity of the saga films and the continued growth of the franchise, as the public connecting with the characters is perhaps the most important piece of the puzzle, especially young people. JJ did a great job not only with the character interaction, but with picking stellar little known actors.

 

I think anyone who seriously thinks that is the direction they are going in is missing something.

Edit: Sorry for the double post.

 

Oh, I don't think it's even remotely possible that Lucasfilm would be so bold with a film that has to rake in so much domestically and internationally to bring in a profit. I just don't understand why there is an assumption that the depiction of a homosexual relationship in a Star Wars film is "political." If a guy can have a gun-toting Yeti as a best friend, then a guy can have a guy as a romantic partner. In fact, the latter is more believable as it's a fundamental reality for millions of humans across the globe.

 

Exactly. Perpetuating a heteronormative reality in a film made in 2015 onwards is every bit as political a decision as introducing a gay character. Obviously, That's not to say it's a bad thing to write heterosexual relationships in Star Wars; just that "politics" isn't just about pushing the boundaries. Sometimes being small c conservative is just as political.

 

How about a gun-toting Yeti as a romantic partner?

Sorry, I couldn't help myself on that one. But seriously, I agree with you. However, the day will come when it is so normal to portray the reality of homosexual relationships, it won't even be mentioned as political. Until then, we'll have to deal with people who have a negative reaction to it, mostly due to insecurities these people have about their own sexuality.

 

I think it's one of those things that Finn has to shake as a character, people are unaccustomed to seeing the male lead secondary in ability to the female lead. It might be beneficial for him to be on his own for a stretch in ep8, to establish his capabilities more.

 

I'm sure that will be the case, since the coma was used to separate Rey and Finn until they reunite in VIII. Also, since John said his role is going to be more physical, and is going back to the gym, he'll have great moments in VIII. TFA was mainly Rey's movie, but I think in VIII we'll also see what Finn can do, and learn a little bit about him as well.