PT Padmé Amidala MEGAthread - Don't look at her that way. It makes her uncomfortable

Um, yes, it is the point. It's why she died in the first place. Her husband basically destroyed her world under the delusion that he was doing this for her, to protect her. If we subtract Anakin's atrocities, then we're left with her dying of a broken heart for no reason at all.

Everyone has a breaking point. Padme exceeded hers and whose fault is that? Anakin's.

 

And that makes life not worth living two minutes after you've given birth to twins? I'm not saying the ending of ROTS wouldn't be hard to swallow for Padme, but goodness, she just gave birth to twins and "lost the will to live"? Sounds totally out of character for any decent mother, especially one headstrong and brave enough to be a Queen, a Senator, and fight valiantly in combat a few times.

 

No, she lost the will to live before giving birth. Hence the droid's warning/advice.

 

I have to admit whenever I see this thread (I believe there is another thread titled the exact same), I always imagine the opening post to be a joke of some sort:

what did Padme die of?

Sithilis

or something.

 

I don't think so. Didn't she name both of the twins?

 

she didn't die til after she named them, the droid made his prognosis that she was dying and lost the will to live before she gave birth.

 

She did.

Medical droid: "We don't know why. She has lost the will to live. We need to operate quickly if we are to save the babies."

 

That's a weird, weird scenario. I hope someone helping Lucas work on this scene at least raised his/her hand and said, "Ya know, George, this doesn't really make a whole lot of sense."

 

It does make sense, you might want to re-watch it. The droid tells Yoda, Obi Wan, and bail that they can't find anything medically wrong with her, but they are losing her none-the-less. The droids says she has lost the will to live, and they will need to operate soon if they are to save the babies.

Obviously they see from their readings that her vitals are slipping....

 

And her vitals are slipping for a very stupid reason. That's my point. First of all, I don't know how an otherwise healthy person wills his/herself to die. And second, as I have said several times, it's totally out of character for Padme to quit on life with twins on the way.

 

That's how I've seen it as well. They're basically saying, "We can't save Padme, there's no hope for her; but we can save the babies if we act quickly."

My issue is that I'm not sure if it's that realistic for her to just will herself to die that quickly. I can understand over a period of days and months, the person just sort of wilts away until at best they're just a shell of their former self that's existing, or at worst they commit suicide, but mere hours (and two babies) later it's 'bye-bye world'?

 

Then that's your opinion and you're entitled to it, I was merely telling you the sequence of events in the movie, because you were disagreeing with said sequence of events

 

I had a parakeet who died of a broken heart. Not that that has anything to do with Episode 3, but I guess if I had known in advance how the bird would die, I could have named it Padme.

 

Fair enough.

 

Dying of a broken heart isn't that unbelievable to me, since that's kind of how my mother passed away. My sister died, and for months my mother was in a depressive state, until she caught ill and didn't wake up one morning. Granted, she was never in the best of health for years after having her hysterectomy, but losing a child must've really done a number on her.

 

I think people are annoyed more at the "medically she is perfectly healthy" part, at least for me.

I'm sorry to hear about your mother and your sister DantheJedi.

 

It didn't take very long for Plagueis to kill Veruna.

 

She died of respiratory damage, the droid was simply a failure of a doctor. Me thinks someone always dreamt of poetry, too bad droids aren't allowed to choose, eh?

 

"...some of the people had a hard time with the reason that Anakin goes bad. Somebody asked whether somebody could kill Anakin's best friend, so that he really gets angry. They wanted a real betrayal, such as, "You tried to kill me so now I'm going to try and kill you." They didn't seem to understand the fact that Anakin is simply greedy. There is no revenge. The revenge of the Sith is Palpatine. It doesn't have much to do with Darth Vader; he's a pawn in the whole scheme....

So I had to ask myself, what was I trying to say and didn't I say it? Did it just get missed or it is it not there? I had to look at it very hard. I had to ask myself, Is this how the audience is going to react? Fortunately, Steven confirmed that most of everything was working. So I may lose a certain demographic - maybe, maybe not. But I had to make a decision, and I decided that I'm not going to alter the film to make it more commercial or marketable."

--George Lucas, The Making of ROTS, page 188.

So if there was something wrong, no one said it to him. Or if they did, he ignored them. Spielberg has long been the one who believed in his ability to tell a story, even when others haven't.

In the aftermath of ROTS's release, an article began making the rounds on the internet confirming that dying of a broken heart does exist, but it doesn't happen as quickly as it does in the film. But it does happen.

 

^^^Those quotes just show George Lucas doesn't even understand screenwriting 101.

 

to answer the subject heading: bad writing.