Padme Amidala Padme Dark Senate Dress

Discussion in 'Costuming and Props' started by Mara_Jade_AZ, Jul 21, 2002.

  1. QueenLaniAmidala Jedi Knight

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    ..up...because I want to see pics! :)
  2. Fragilityfemme Jedi Knight

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    I feel like adding in my two cents (or three, or four!) since I'm making an Elizabethan gown at the moment.

    It looks like the dress is made of several different pieces:
    - The underskirt (gold)
    - The bodice (gold)
    - The overskirt (dark blue velvet)
    - A short "overbodice" or jacket with sleeves (dark blue velvet)
    - Undersleeves (purple shiny stuff)
    - Shawl on the back, sewed onto the jacket beneath the collar (lighter purple and black)

    I'm using Margo Anderson's Historical Patterns, so that's who I'm referencing- and her patterns are *accurate*.

    The bodice is a doublet-style bodice: high neck, and in this case it closes in back (probably with a zipper for Natalie's sake, though it would have been laced shut, historically). The bodice is most likely sleeveless, to ease bulk.

    The underskirt is probably (for economy's sake) a forepart of the gold fabric, with the rest of the skirt being black or dark blue plain fabric. The forepart would need to be *extremely* stiff; I'm flatlining the forepart for my dress with bull denim. Heck, flatline it with cardboard if it'll keep the thing stiff! ;) This underskirt, by the way, is probably cartridge pleated to provide fullness.

    The overskirt is also likely cartridge pleated, and stitched to a waistband (which would be reinforced with belt stiffener). In this case, the raw edges of the front part of the overskirt are folded under and back, to create a flat space for embroidery (this flat space is also likely flatlined or interfaced). Embroidery on velvet? That's why I'm not couture-quality, yet. (Yet!)

    The "overbodice" looks as if it is not attached to the bodice, overskirt, and underskirt, except possibly at the waist. To cover up the fact that the overskirt and this piece aren't one piece of continuous fabric, "wings" would be stitched onto the overbodice- there's piping emerging from the shadows of Padme's arm, and that's likely the "wing" bottom. The jacket sleeves would have been tie-on, in period, and they might be here (and the purpose of the shawl may be to cover that up). Sleeves would tie on using lacing threaded through eyelets, or, if you're in a hurry, grommets.

    Undersleeves- Opera gloves with the hands cut off? I have NO idea!

    Shawl- The seamstress took two pieces of fabric and sewed one end of each onto the jacket/overbodice behind the collar, then frayed the other ends (like a scarf). Then, she tied them together at the small of Padme's back, possibly stitching the tied-together part to the dress. The rest, she let hang free. From over here the fabric itself looks like batik, but I'm probably wrong!

    Christine
  3. PadawansGuide Jedi Knight

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    Mara_Jade - did you finish your gown? This thread has been very quiet - but I was just looking for costume hints to post on my page for this costume since I have nothing and I was curious! I hope you did! I'd love to see pictures of it!

    FragilityFemme and Ferd - I liked some of your insights on the costume and I'd like to post them..

    Maggie
  4. Obi-Dawn Kenobi Manager Emeritus

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  5. Sister_Sola Manager Emeritus

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    Okay I'll post it here in response to LadyNaberrie's post:

    The deleted Senate Gown is on my list of future projects - $$ pending.

    I bought this Vogue pattern for use (with modifications) for the velvet overcoat part:

    [image=http://sistersola.com/Extras/boards/Vogue2714-coatdress.jpg]

    That's Vogue 2714

    The front closure section would have to be cut away, and the collar modified a bit, but the overall shape and length of the coat is really good, and the sleeves are at a pretty good start too.

    The McCall's 4028 pattern could be useful for the underdress, the mustard taffeta section.
  6. LadyNaberrie Jedi Master

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    Thank you SisterSola! My mom and I are tackling this dress this summer in anticipation for Celebration III!! This is my first major costuming project. I have a picture of my Mara Jade costume in my profile...but thanks :)
  7. Obi-Dawn Kenobi Manager Emeritus

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    That's great, LadyNaberrie! I've yet to see anyone in this costume. :)
  8. LadyNaberrie Jedi Master

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    as soon as I get it finished I will post pictures! :)
  9. LadyNaberrie Jedi Master

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    Anyone find any good fabrics for this dress???
  10. Sister_Sola Manager Emeritus

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    I haven't started looking for fabrics on this one yet.
  11. Obi Anne FF admin Celebrations, Europe

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    At Jedi-Con this weekend I saw a fanversion of this dress, it was gourgeous. I'll see if I can dig up some photos as soon as they find their way to the net.

    Also in a panel with Jay Laga'aia (captain Typho) he talked about this scene and actually gave some costuming facts. Apparantly it had taken 4 women 6 months to make the dress, it is made out of a material that I unfortunately missed the name of but he described it as a velvet-velvet. The costuming people who worked with the dress actually had to wear velvet gloves in order to not make any handprints on the fabric. He hadn't cared about that though, he was the Amidala's security officer after all. ;)
  12. Sister_Sola Manager Emeritus

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    Cool factoid Obi-Anne, thanks! But ugh - having to wear velvet gloves to make the thing over months and months and it gets cut from the movie!!!! Those poor costumers must hate it when that happens!
  13. surlygirlie Manager Emeritus

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    Ooooooh! Obi Anne, I hope you can find some pictures of the dress that was at JediCon! I'd LOVE to see it.

    Also, I think it's cute that JL knew that much about the dress... heeheehee.





  14. Obi Anne FF admin Celebrations, Europe

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    First picture found. click here

    Yeah, I was a bit shocked about hearing him talking about the costume, that's why I didn't hear the name of the fabric, I wasn't prepared at all.
  15. Annya_Latoure2 Fan Force CR Tampa Bay, FL

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    On the lower sleeves, how about a lycra product?
  16. PadawansGuide Jedi Knight

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    Obi-Ann, that's so interesting! Mind if I add that factoid to my page on the costume? And wow - the fan who made it did a really nice job!! The hair looks great too!

    Maggie
  17. surlygirlie Manager Emeritus

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    Edit: Ok, I JUST realized, a full day later, that this post landed in the wrong thread. [face_blush]


    I have a wishful-thinking type theory that MoM will continue to circle the globe over and over for years to come. It's always a successful installation wherever it goes, so surely there's a long list of museums willing to host it.

    It would be wonderful for them to tour back through the states (and maybe come a little closer to where I live this time so I don't have to drive 12 hours to see it...) with some Amidala gowns, as there were none when I saw it in Houston 3 years ago.






  18. Sister_Sola Manager Emeritus

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    That fan's costume is great - she did an awesome job!
  19. Obi Anne FF admin Celebrations, Europe

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    Maggie, feel free to add any of the information on to the guide. :)
  20. PadawansGuide Jedi Knight

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  21. Obi-Dawn Kenobi Manager Emeritus

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    I concur, surly. I saw it in two separate cities and neither time were any Amidala gowns on display. Yerg.

    The fan who made this costume did a fantastic job with her fabric choices! Looks great. :)
  22. Sister_Sola Manager Emeritus

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    Unlocked by request and bumping.
  23. Darth_Eagle Fanforce CR Singapore

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  24. JainaMSolo Jedi Knight

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    Did anyone see The Daily Show tonight? They added a shot of Padme in this dress to the Iranian Senate. I giggled like a madwoman.
  25. Jedi Girl of Corellia Manager Emeritus

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    Well after taking a good half a year break from sewing, I've decided to reenter the world of costumes with a bang :D I chose to do this one, mainly because I've not seen too many people with one, and it's Elizabethanish and I did a ton of Elizabethan gowns so I know that area pretty well.

    Currently I'm working on the pattern for the base gown :) And I've got the beading pattern ready too, just need to wait for it to arrive in the mail!

    I'll keep you all updated.