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Pandemonium in Madison Square Garden

Discussion in 'Archive: The Arena' started by ApolloSmileGirl, Dec 16, 2006.

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  1. George_Roper

    George_Roper Jedi Knight star 7

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    Just watched it on YouTube. With the exception of a few guys it was just handbags. Which means that I agree with ASG on the issue.
     
  2. Rogue...Jedi

    Rogue...Jedi Administrator Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yeah, but I have a feeling that all the ejected players will get something, just not much for most of them, like 1-game suspensions for being involved and in the middle of it or something like that... then the big ones will get big suspensions.

    But we'll see, it is certainly possible that some don't get any suspensions.
     
  3. ApolloSmileGirl

    ApolloSmileGirl Jedi Knight star 8

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    Don't you get a fine from the league, if you're ejected from a game? I mean, from the video, that's probably more than some of the players deserve all together. I really hope that Stern doesn't hold the fact that some of those players were already on the floor, and were just trying to defuse the situation.

    I've heard some players, from both benches, left the bench and ran out on the floor. That's usually a one game suspension, and I can see the validity in giving them a slap on the hand for that. But, not the players that were playing on the floor when the incident happened, that were just trying to break it up.
     
  4. Rogue...Jedi

    Rogue...Jedi Administrator Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I'm not sure, but a automatic fine with an ejection does sound familiar. If thats right, it might be enough to prevent suspensions for those others.

    And I'm pretty sure running out on the floor is a 1-game suspension, too. I think that goes for NCAA and NBA, and I agree with it. Couldn't tell from the video I've seen who, if any, this would be.
     
  5. ApolloSmileGirl

    ApolloSmileGirl Jedi Knight star 8

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    I'm not sure who it would have been either, I just heard a Sports Center guy say, last night, something along the lines of "You can't leave the bench, you just can't do that". So, I assumed at least a few players did.
     
  6. heels1785

    heels1785 JCC/PT/New Films Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Yeah, I heard the same thing from Kiki Vandeweghe on NBA Fastbreak.

    Automatic one-game suspension for throwing a punch as well, in his words, "whether it connects or not."
     
  7. ObiWan506

    ObiWan506 Former Head Admin star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    From CBSSportsline.com: "David Stern has suspended NBA leading scorer Carmelo Anthony 15 games for his role in Saturday night's Nuggets-Knicks brawl."
     
  8. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral VIP star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Fifteen sounds about right. I had predicted 20, but 'Melo's not got a reputation, so 15 is about right.
     
  9. ObiWan506

    ObiWan506 Former Head Admin star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    They added this to the tidbit: "Stern metes out punishment to six other players, including 10 games each for Nate Robinson and J.R. Smith."

    So that means that three players that were ejected are not getting suspended any further ... unless he hasn't decided on them yet.
     
  10. KnightWriter

    KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    ha! i called it.

    i kept seeing all these 5-10 game predictions, and those were way too short.
     
  11. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral VIP star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    In all, seven players were suspended and both franchises were fined $500,000. The suspensions are as follows:

    Carmelo Anthony: 15 games
    Nate Robinson: 10 games
    J.R. Smith: 10 games
    Mardy Collins: 6 games
    Jared Jeffries: 4 games
    Jerome James: 1 game
    Nene: 1 game
    George Karl: No fine or suspension
    Isiah Thomas: No fine or suspension


    (from espn.com)
     
  12. Rogue...Jedi

    Rogue...Jedi Administrator Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I like the franchise fine, that might help in the long run.

    I think its about right, probably could have been a bit longer for some, but still, enough to get the point across. And Anthony has to know that leading the league in scoring won't protect him, either.
     
  13. Juliet316

    Juliet316 Chosen One star 10

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    Karl had some interesting vernacular to describe Isaiah Thomas.

    I'm wondering why Stern doesn't investigate Thomas' role in this. From the video it's clear that he goes up to Anthony before the hard foul and afterwards there's footage where he's clearly mouthing "I told you so." and words to that effect, so it's pretty indicative that perhaps what Anthony is saying about Thomas' warning is true.
     
  14. CJS

    CJS Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Melo will get his reduced to 12 games I am betting but this was sure an ugly incident.

    Also, the title of this thread should be The Grapple in the Apple. ;)
     
  15. ObiWan506

    ObiWan506 Former Head Admin star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Someone was listening to Mike & Mike this morning. ;)

    I don't understand how Anthony's appeal holds any weight. It's pretty weak and he's lucky he didn't get more games.
     
  16. Rogue...Jedi

    Rogue...Jedi Administrator Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I don't understand how Anthony's appeal holds any weight. It's pretty weak and he's lucky he didn't get more games.

    I don't either. If I was in charge of the appeal, I might try to give him a few more games :p

    And "The Grapple in the Apple" seems to be ESPN's name for it.
     
  17. rechedelphar

    rechedelphar Jedi Master star 6

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    but in all honesty your not going to blow a 19 point lead with 2 minutes remaining, Anthony should not have been in there
     
  18. Baron-Soontir-Fel

    Baron-Soontir-Fel Jedi Knight star 5

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    I agree. Karl cannot be completely absolved from blame.
     
  19. Rogue...Jedi

    Rogue...Jedi Administrator Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Karl should not be absolved of all blame, because his starters should not have been in them.

    Even so, that doesn't come close to excusing the actions of the Knicks.

    And if Thomas did order the hard foul, then he has more blame than Karl.
     
  20. Juliet316

    Juliet316 Chosen One star 10

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    Indeed, and he looked like the cat that ate the canary after the whole thing played itself out.
     
  21. EMPEROR_WINDU

    EMPEROR_WINDU Jedi Master star 5

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    They should have suspended Carmello Anthony for the rest of the year. Totally inexcusable. Just because there was a flagrant foul (of which, I have seen far worse) does not entitle someone to punch another person in the face after the altercation is under control.


    Anthony's actions weren't in the heat of the moment or anything like that. Things had settled down, and we went over and punched the Knick's guy in the face.


    Should have been the remainder of the season. Weak, David Stern, weak.
     
  22. Rasberryjammed

    Rasberryjammed Jedi Youngling

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    i love it!!!!
     
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