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Discussion in 'Literature' started by Charlemagne19, Nov 3, 2001.

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  1. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    I have had it up to hear with these stupid canon debates that are ruining every single thread that I'm participating in. While it was amusing enough at first trying to work out all the continuity errors and themes of the Books vs. the Themes of the Movies (and very entertaining) now it has become a inane purile (I don't use purile very often) adolescent case of "he said vs. she said" with the same Basher vs. Gusher type feel that plagued the Phantom Menace forum.

    Given that this is the literature forum and by defination everything written inside Star Wars literature is Expanded Universe (though some might say the m...no not getting into that) I make this petition to the list administrators that any particular post or topic attempting to discuss the cannonical-ness of the EU be moved to the miscellaneous-ness of Star Wars...

    This is a fictional universe and while in the Catholic Church (my own denomination) determining the ultime one true truth of God may be slightly important as is maintaining an official policy-the Star Wars universe is a *FICTIONAL* universe and determining while determining whether George Lucas's new movies will effect the EU it doesn't matter particularly beyond that what the people at LFL consider their personal star wars timeline...

    and that's really what this debate is about.

    Thank you.
     
  2. chissdude10

    chissdude10 Jedi Youngling star 5

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    Jul 26, 2001
    RIGHT ON DUDE!!!
     
  3. Bib Fortuna Twi'lek

    Bib Fortuna Twi'lek Jedi Youngling star 10

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    I don't much like these canon debates, either. It has been clearly stated that everything except Infinities is canon, yet certain close-minded individuals refuse to believe that.
     
  4. Gandalf the Grey

    Gandalf the Grey Jedi Knight star 6

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    [tempted to log in under a sock and start debating with the postatron]
     
  5. Mastadge

    Mastadge Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I agree.
     
  6. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    Bib, no offense I've posted enough to the Vision thread which unfortunately quickly degenerated into the subject at it's next to worst (the worst was the Prophecy of the One and Emperor) but who cares?

    LFL again could say that Luke is a homosexual and married to Chewie in the next three movies that Lucas is making when he finally loses his mind but he's still married to mara in the books.

    Now let me sign my own petition.

    BOOYAKA
     
  7. Darth McClain

    Darth McClain Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I gotta say, you are right.
     
  8. MaceWinducannotdie

    MaceWinducannotdie Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Hey, what a great idea. I sign your petition and get a post closer to the next star ;)
     
  9. darthparth

    darthparth Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I think you're right about one thing you don't use the word often enough, my friend, because the word is puerile
     
  10. Kier_Nimmion

    Kier_Nimmion Jedi Knight star 5

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    Yo, I'm in, I have had it as well. However, shutting down a thread(s) is not the answer, It's the reader's choice as to whether they should post replies to said threads. So be your own censor, don't get someone else to do it for you. Moving the threads is fine by me.
     
  11. Ganner_Rhysode_86

    Ganner_Rhysode_86 Jedi Youngling

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    Sep 25, 2000
    I'm in too. That is why I like SW better than Trek, EU is canon!! WHy wouldn't you want it to be? Because Chewie died. I was sad too....*rambling*
     
  12. RingoJuna

    RingoJuna Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Jan 18, 2001
    Count me in!
     
  13. stevo

    stevo Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I want in, but the Admins won't do it. You can't just tell these people that their opinion doesn't matter. But I do understand the way those threads have degraded which I why I do not post in those threads.
     
  14. Asyr Handor

    Asyr Handor Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Exactly!!!
     
  15. Matthew Trias

    Matthew Trias Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    I'm in.These canon threads have gotten real petty.

    But the admins seem to be having fun in em themselves....
     
  16. LanceJade

    LanceJade Jedi Padawan star 4

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  17. yoda_does_dallas

    yoda_does_dallas Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Agree with you I do
     
  18. The Gatherer

    The Gatherer Jedi Youngling star 6

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    I am hesitant to rule out canon debates.

    I am against threads and topics that say "EU is crap, only movies are canon, etc..." - I hate those close minded topics.

    What I do enjoy however, is true debate in the classic sense. Debating canon (not movies vs. EU) but internal EU canon. Ie: this couldn't have happened because x did this and y was here at the time because z told him to. I suppose that reaches more across continuity, but does involve canon as well.
     
  19. Jedi Merkurian

    Jedi Merkurian New Films Thread Reaper and Rumor Naysayer star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I'l have to agree with The Gatherer. Debates are useful, shouting matches are not.

    I'd hate to see good discussions shut down because of a few close-minded loudmouths.
     
  20. Dev Sibwarra

    Dev Sibwarra Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I support The Gatherer and Jedi Merkurian on this one. Canon debates are fun- if you don't like them, stay away from them.
     
  21. Matthew Trias

    Matthew Trias Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Well..tthey don't seem like true debates.

    And shouldn't they be in the EU community or misc.?Not Lit?
     
  22. Gandalf the Grey

    Gandalf the Grey Jedi Knight star 6

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    Canon debates are fine. Lord knows I've been in enough of them. However, keep them in the proper threads. Certain threads are getting off-topic as people discuss canonity instead of the stated thread topic.
     
  23. ShinagamiWing

    ShinagamiWing Jedi Youngling star 4

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    *Ka-sign!*

    Yeah, debates are cool, but flame wars are dumb. And I really don't know if these should be in the lit section at all.
     
  24. Darth_KindaEvilGuy

    Darth_KindaEvilGuy Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Hey...

    It's a free galaxy. If you don't want a canon debate, don't participate. If a canon debate sprouts on an unrelated thread, END IT! I agree that there needs to be some administration of threads that metamorphize into canon discussion (see: Does EU violate GL's vision of TGFFA), but let the canonists (is that a word?) duke it out on their own threads if they want to.

     
  25. Dev Sibwarra

    Dev Sibwarra Jedi Padawan star 4

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    The "Vision" thread was an extension of the canon debate, an attempt to establish some much-needed postulates for it. It's not surprising that it's going back in the direction of the argument that it started from.
     
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