Amph Pirates of the Caribbean 5: Dead Men Tell No Tales

What are your thoughts on 1-4? Just curious.

 

Black Pearl is my favorite- I like the other 3 but for me the first one is the most special.

 

I'm planning on seeing the movie this Friday.

I don't remember much of anything of the third film and I skipped the fourth one.

What do I need to know from those flicks to enjoy number 5?

 

Please don't worry about Depp's career imploding; his ace in the hole is Edward Scissorhands II.

 

I saw it last night. My thoughts under the spoiler tag:

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In many ways, it felt like a remake of Dead Man's Chest. First, we have the title: Dead Men Tell No Tales (as opposed to Dead Man's Chest). Second, we have a vengeful pirate pursuing Jack Sparrow. Then we have a young man looking to rescue his father from a curse. Finally, we have a British official/officer hoping to take control of the seas. As for the post-credits scene, it implies that a villain from any of the previous movies has returned.

As for Johnny Depp as Jack Sparrow, it's sad to say, but he's gotten increasingly worse with each film. His best performances were the first three (the first one being the best); maybe the producers recognized the danger, because in the fourth film, it seemed to be equally about Barbossa as it was about Jack. His performance here was underwhelming.

As for the villains, Javier Bardem did a good job, but there was one weakness that really kept him from being a true threat (and once again, another similarity to POTC 2). I felt the British Lieutenant was more of a threat to the heroes, then Salazar. Even then, he was Norrington and Beckett, without the inert goodness (Norrington) or the slimeball nature (Cutler Beckett). All in all, the villains have taken a downturn since the first three of the franchise. In number 4, I felt Angelica was a stronger character than Blackbeard, with no disrespect to Ian McShane, who probably pulled off that role better than any other actor.

 

Great, it's seeming like yet another instance of the trailers being cool but the actual film being poor.

 

That's not to say the movie is bad. There are some highlights, though, but I won't spoil them.

 

Painless viewing

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Nothing mind blowing, but the film does have its moments. Few though they may be. I won't lie and say I didn't smile ear to ear when the Pearl returned. I knew Barbossa was toast as soon as they threw the daughter reveal in there, which I swear felt random to me. Barbossa was probably my favorite character of the franchise. Mr. Sparrow comes off less the greatest pirate ever, and more of a caricature. And the macguffin is pretty much the same as the fountain of youth. It shows up, is used for 5 minutes, and then destroyed.

The greatest take away is that everything is now pretty much tied up into a nice little bow, and is done fairly nicely. You can tell the idea of turning this into a trilogy is now over, and hopefully this will be the end.

Watch it for some nostalgia that will make you smile, and be glad that this will probably be the end of it.

 

I haven't liked the last two Pirates films. I hope this one is better than the last one especially.

 

Guys, this is like listening to Tea Party Republicans try to justify disliking Donald Trump. This didn't just happen. This series has been terrible for a long time. Basically every single one but the first one, which was really only okay, and surprising insofar as it wasn't terrible. Let's get a grip here.

 

I still have yet to see the 4th one. Maybe once this comes out I'll rent/stream 4 &5 together.

I love the first one, second was decent, third was kind of forgettable, mostly because of how dark it was compared to the more fun first two.

 

This was better than 4 but not the first 3. Recall the officer who admired Jack. "That's got to be the best pirate I've ever seen," and "Do you think he plans it all out ahead or just makes it up as he goes along?" That feeling is not in this. Jack is just sort of along for the ride.

One thing I dislike in movies is when the heroes are in some precarious situation and seem to be straining in some way, which I guess is meant to be dramatic, but they spend extra time on these straining moments waiting for The Big Moment That Happens and it's usually engulfed in cartoon-like cgi making it worse. There's a bit of that in this flick.

The movie doesn't suck, but how hard is it to look at the first film(or first 3) and make it feel like that?

It looks like they really want to make a sixth, and perhaps as the movie shows:

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Turner and Swan will be along for the ride[/url]

 

I love Dead Man's Chest (not as much as the first of course), but At World's End dropped the ball on a lot of things and then On Stranger Tides was a disaster. Was hoping this latest one could at least get Captain Jack back to near his more humorous peak....

 

So the Internet pirates hacking Pirates movie (and later someone claiming they had The Last Jedi) was fake news. A hoax! A swindle! A con! Hoghwash! Someone piggybacking off paranoia of the legit leak of Orange if the New Black to scam Disney dollrahs. No, really!

Investigative reporting by torrentfreak website:

https://torrentfreak.com/was-the-disney-movie-hacking-ransom-a-giant-hoax-170524/

At this point one has to wonder. If no credible evidence of a leak has been made available and the threats to leak the movie haven’t been followed through on, what was the point of the whole affair?
Money appears to have been the motive, but it seems likely that none will be changing hands. But would someone really bluff the leaking of a movie to a company like Disney in order to get a ‘ransom’ payment or scam a release group out of a few dollars? Perhaps.
Braidley informs TF that Darkness/EMH recently claimed that he’d had the copy of The Last Jedi since March but never had any intention of leaking it. He did, however, need money for a personal matter involving a family relative.
With this in mind, we asked Darkness/EMH why he’d failed to carry through with his threats to leak the movie, bit by bit, as his email to Disney claimed. He said there was never any intention of leaking the movie “until we are sure it wont be traced back” but “if the right group comes forward and meets our strict standards then the leak could come as soon as 2-3 weeks.”

So while Deadline and Hollywood Reporter said Pirates had been stolen (and this guy talking to torrentfreak said he had The Last Jedi) but then comes along Iger who says this:

https://torrentfreak.com/even-fake-leaks-can-help-in-hollywoods-anti-piracy-wars-170527/

“To our knowledge we were not hacked,” Iger said. “We had a threat of a hack of a movie being stolen. We decided to take it seriously but not react in the manner in which the person who was threatening us had required.”

So it can be beneficial for Disney to generate sympathy saying they were "hacked" and to bring up the spectre of the Sony hack or OisNB leaking, in reality, nobody hacked anybody.

 

Which was a complete shame because Ian McShane was a brilliant choice for Blackbeard.

 

The problem that Blackbeard had in OST was that Barbossa heavily influenced by the historical Blackbeard, everybody loves Barbossa and always has, so where do you go from there?

 

So, is this worth seeing in a theater? I do have a decent size TV and a projector and small screen.

 

I really enjoyed it so I say yes.

 

So, the question is:

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How did Davy Jones survived? Even if he survived the stab to his heart, the breaking of the trident should have returned him to normal like it did Will.

 

I don't remember Stranger Tides being THAT bad but equally I don't remember much about it in general which is probably going to result in me not bothering with this.