The leadership role I think I am going from threads made by mods dicussing (to posters) how FF works where CRs and leadership go hand in hand. It may have changed, though tbh I think the main point is that there are now two types of clubs here - ones that are FanForce clubs following FF guidelines (and pure FF groups), and clubs where they wanted their own internal structure and as such distanced themselves from the FF to some extent - they keep the CR position as a contact between the tfn mods and themselves, post occassionally, but really are self-governed clubs. They usually have their own non-FF name and identity away from the boards. I know because I was involved with a few US ones like that, and it can get to the stage where that group doesn't really have an interest in being FF any more. That depends on what members want out of this. But CRs within fan force structure as I understand are voted in as the "leader" and liason of the chapter. But it isn't a dictatorship, they are elected, and members have to be consulted. I'll check on that, but I have posted links to where it is discussed before. Basically - if we remain FF with no outside structure, we need the position of authority that tfn provides - the CR. If we make our own structure with another leader who is above the CR within the club, then where does that leave us as a primarily FF group? It's up to members if we go that route, or stick to being tied in with FF fully. North is becoming big enough to take the self governed but still represented on tfn road. I personally am not sure if we should take that step. But like Hal said above - its semantics - I am not claiming the "leader" has final say on all decisions, it's a group decision, I am talking more "leadership" where CR tries to get a decision made with everyone happy. Similar to what you say about a facilitator. So I hope I cleared that bit up, I don't mean a person who dictates to others, but will be there to finalise things when we have a general agreement.