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Please Read: Rules on the Usage of EU in this forum.

Discussion in 'Classic Trilogy' started by Darth Dark Helmet, Mar 26, 2002.

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  1. Darth Dark Helmet

    Darth Dark Helmet Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Alright, this is the new thread for this. These are the two rules that I'm laying down for this forum as far this whole damned EU/Canon debate goes.


    EUers. No stating that EU is canon or the ONLY correct solution to a question. You may present an EU answer as an answer, but not the "right" answer. You may know everything about what goes on in the EU, but some people have never heard of it. They may be looking for a number of different theories on an answer, and to present yours as the absolute, is the wrong way to do things.


    Purists. No rejecting theories purely because they are EU. If you see an EU idea presented as an answer, and you don't agree with it, politely state your disagreement. Say, "Well, that answer is from the EU, I think it happens this way instead..." Don't go off on tangents about how the EU sux, and how Zahn in a talentless hack, or how the NJO is destroying your life. Continue on with the discussion in a normal way. The EU is just another idea to be presented for discussion.

    Any thread that breaks down into a deabte about what is or is not canon will be closed. The thread starter is more then welcome to re-start the thread. But I'm getting tired of threads that after three posts break down into a debate about whether or not the EU is canon. If you have to debate it, take it to PM, or e-mail, I don't care, but keep all threads on topic. This thread here: The cave in TESB. Some one explain its meaning. is a good example. There are some good posts int hat thread, but it is ruined by off topic bickering. So no more. Threads stay on topic. If you repeadtly try and take threads off topic, and into this debate, you may be banned for it, no matter if you are an EUer, or a purist.


    If someone from either side tries to incite a flame war, or a fight over this, just point them to this thread. If they still persist, PM a mod and action will be taken.


    But to everyone, just remember that we're here first and foremost to have fun discussing movies. Use some common sense in what you're going to post.

    Cool with everyone? :)
     
  2. Sith Magician

    Sith Magician Jedi Master star 5

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    just remember that we're here first and foremost to have fun discussing movies.

    Too right that's cool :)
     
  3. Smuggler-of-Mos-Espa

    Smuggler-of-Mos-Espa Jedi Youngling star 6

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    Wow, El Deepo.
     
  4. Emperor_Billy_Bob

    Emperor_Billy_Bob Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    I know that this thread is going to get 15,000 replies, so I just wanna be one of the first. I agree with this policy. Good Job
     
  5. Genghis12

    Genghis12 Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I agree with the policy. It can only make the forums and the SW fan community a better place.
     
  6. Jedi Greg Maddux

    Jedi Greg Maddux Jedi Knight star 6

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    That's great. I've been practicing that all along (I often supply EU answers to questions but never force anyone to accept them) but it's nice to re-iterate it for everyone to abide. :)
     
  7. Tropical_Plumber

    Tropical_Plumber Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Isn't this the same policy we've had all along? What's the point? It's a good policy, but there are a dedicated few who will never follow it.
     
  8. Emperor_Billy_Bob

    Emperor_Billy_Bob Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    What you think your better than the mods now Tropical_Plumber? You think you know how to run the forums better than they do? Tsk Tsk Tsk. One day when I am in control your kind will be a long forgotten race. Behold I WILL CRUSH THE NAYSAYERS!


    :subliminal:make me a mod:subliminal:
     
  9. Tropical_Plumber

    Tropical_Plumber Jedi Padawan star 4

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    ^I wasn't putting down the mods. This is probably the best that can be done. I'm just pointing out that there are certain posters that have never followed these rules, and I doubt that they ever will.
     
  10. Emperor_Billy_Bob

    Emperor_Billy_Bob Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    I was joking man, lighten up.
     
  11. Genghis12

    Genghis12 Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    TP...
    "What's the point? It's a good policy, but there are a dedicated few who will never follow it."

    The feeling I'm getting is now there will be specific, personal accountability for trolls who go out of their way to derail a discussion involving the EU and enforcement of such by the mods.

    That is, if you think there's a "dedicated few who never follow it," - well it looks like things might be different for them from now on.
     
  12. halibut

    halibut Ex-Mod star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    DDH:

    How dare you take my words and claim them as Jedi Merkurian's :p
     
  13. Jedi Merkurian

    Jedi Merkurian Future Films Rumor Naysayer star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    halibut, if you're going to actually claim credit for what you said, at least spell my name right! :p :D

    Hey, nice sig! I didn't know you were a Buffy fan!

    D'oh! I'm off-topic! [face_blush]

    Uhhhh...yeah! Wut DDH sez! :D
     
  14. halibut

    halibut Ex-Mod star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    JM: Dunno what you mean :p

    BTW You're the first person to recognise where my quote comes from

    To go back on topic. As an example, what would happen to the "Is Boba Fett Dead?" thread. I must admit I don't read it, cos I have my opinion and don't really care, but isn't this basically a "Is the EU 'theory' that Boba Fett is dead true?" topic. It's just a cover for a "Is EU canon" poll

    Just a thought
     
  15. vw_jedi

    vw_jedi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The feeling I'm getting is now there will be specific, personal accountability for trolls who go out of their way to derail a discussion involving the EU and enforcement of such by the mods.

    ammusing how you left out the part about the trolls who are constantly telling purists that their speculation is wrong because it contradicts something in the EU. i believe the "rules" are for both camps. there are just as many hardline EU fans as purists. i don't think it's fair to make either contingent the bad guys or to blame one side more than the other for thread hijacking. both sides are guilty, lets hope we can all move past it and just have fun.
     
  16. Jedi Merkurian

    Jedi Merkurian Future Films Rumor Naysayer star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    I fail to see where Genghis12 singled out any particular "faction" as being responsible for hijacking threads, vw_jedi. Guilty conscience? ;)
     
  17. Darth_Tyrannous

    Darth_Tyrannous Jedi Master star 4

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    This is a good idea, probably keep the newbies who dont know about the hatred for the EU 'round here to get basher hard
     
  18. Jabachile

    Jabachile Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I'm sorry, this is an "Expanded Thread," I refuse to listen... ;)

    I never say how EU sucks, I just go by the movies, but good idea! The ignorance will go WAY down!
     
  19. Wesmin7

    Wesmin7 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    vw_jedi: Genghis12 was talking to people would refuse to accept the Mod's new set of rules, do not assume that he was speaking directly to you and try to retaliate by calling EU'ers 'trolls'. Carrying over from what I had said on CA's thread: these statements might spark a flame.
     
  20. Wesmin7

    Wesmin7 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Do the rules stated here apply in the Misc. Forum, because they are having a EU/canon debate there right now that has the potential to get very nasty very quickly.
     
  21. Darth Dark Helmet

    Darth Dark Helmet Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I'm sorry, this is an "Expanded Thread," I refuse to listen...

    BAH! This thread is completly canon. Consider it a Special edition. ;)


    And the punishment for thread de-railing will go both ways. EUers and Purists.

    Don't take this to mean I'm limiting discussion in any way, you can still discuss things and present any idea, just use common sense.
     
  22. vw_jedi

    vw_jedi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I fail to see where Genghis12 singled out any particular "faction" as being responsible for hijacking threads, vw_jedi. Guilty conscience?

    hmmmm lets see could this line perhaps be singleing out purists as the derailers?
    The feeling I'm getting is now there will be specific, personal accountability for trolls who go out of their way to derail a discussion involving the EU
    i mean an EU fan would not "derail" a discussion that involves the EU. so i wonder who he is talking about? are you still failing to see my point merkurian?
     
  23. Darth Dark Helmet

    Darth Dark Helmet Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Please let's not have this thread degenerate into bickering. As far as I see, that staement by Ghengis is perfectly unbiased, it doesn't single out anyone group.
     
  24. T_16

    T_16 Jedi Youngling

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    I believe the rules are good. I also believe that bickering is pointless. I do however also think that that statement was biased against the so called "puists." if everyone is to get along the first thing we have to do is stop pointing fingers and all accept responsibility for what we say regarding other peoples beliefs. purists and EU fans alike. it is all SW after all right?
     
  25. Jedi Merkurian

    Jedi Merkurian Future Films Rumor Naysayer star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Wut DDH sez! :)
     
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