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Discussion in 'Oceania Discussion Boards' started by SWNZ, Apr 1, 2002.

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  1. SWNZ

    SWNZ Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Ok so myself and my flatmates had a good discussion over the weekend over whether or not we (NZ) should become the next state of America.

    We came to the conclusion that yes, we'll get rid of the monachy and become one with USA. Why? The benefits of course.

    * Boost to the economy: Americans will come to the State of NZ for holidays etc injections Billions into the economy.

    * We'll get the choice of about 1 million flavours of chewing gum. Not to mention a Wendy's and Taco Bell on every street corner.

    * We'll get more Olympic medals in 2004 than we have in our entire history.

    * We'll have an air force

    * Cops will have guns

    * we'll have a military

    * you know those F16's we were going to get, they'll be a thing of the past. We'll have brand new F18's

    * Ooh and we'll get air force carriers instead of little frigates to scare people away who enter our waters.

    * No one will attack us, why?
    Cause we'll have all the big guns and nothing else but sheep and wendy's.

    * Life in prison means "Life" in Prison

    * We can have Govenors, and senators just like in Star Wars.

    * Our dollar value will be more than anyone elses.

    * Imagine the money we can inject into academies, education, health, sport anything really.

    There's heaps more benefits, I just can't remember them all. I don't think we found a disadvantage.


    Thought????
     
  2. jp-30

    jp-30 Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    April Fools was yesterday, SWNZ. :p

    I lived & worked in the US for a year in 97 - 98. There's no way I'd want my country to run like that.



     
  3. Darth_Graal

    Darth_Graal Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Nov 19, 2001
    heres a disadvantage.... WE'D BE AMERICANS!!
    Thats just a scary thought!
     
  4. SithForceLord

    SithForceLord Jedi Master star 6

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    I don't think we found a disadvantage.

    WE WILL BE CLASSED AS AMERICANS.

    and yes - a day late SWNZ.




    EDIT = beat me to it Graal. :D

     
  5. YouAgain

    YouAgain Jedi Master star 5

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    they are actually pretty valid points even if i was a joke
     
  6. Darth_Graal

    Darth_Graal Jedi Padawan star 4

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    no nothing is worth loosing your national identity especially not taco bell!!
     
  7. jp-30

    jp-30 Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    * Boost to the economy: Americans will come to the State of NZ for holidays etc injections Billions into the economy.

    Americans don't like flying, nor are they big travellers. Compare the # of european / asian tourists you see here cf. US travellers.

    * We'll get the choice of about 1 million flavours of chewing gum. Not to mention a Wendy's and Taco Bell on every street corner.

    Chewing gum on footpaths everywhere sucks. Do we need more fast food outlets?

    * We'll get more Olympic medals in 2004 than we have in our entire history.

    But any achievements by former NZ athletes will be lost while we are supposed to care that "we" won the basketball gold again?

    * We'll have an air force

    We have an airforce, but one that is suited to our countries needs.

    * Cops will have guns

    Therefore criminals will be armed more often. Our cops already have guns, but not worn as sidearms. I prefer it this way.

    * we'll have a military

    We have a military.

    * you know those F16's we were going to get, they'll be a thing of the past. We'll have brand new F18's

    To do what, shoot Painted Apple Moths into oblivion?

    * Ooh and we'll get air force carriers instead of little frigates to scare people away who enter our waters.

    But we have no-where to park them, as the Rangitoto channel isn't deep enough to get them to Devonport.

    * No one will attack us, why?
    Cause we'll have all the big guns and nothing else but sheep and wendy's.


    Big guns didn't deter terrorists from attacking the US. Having nuclear weapons will MAKE us a target.

    * Life in prison means "Life" in Prison

    Yay!

    * We can have Govenors, and senators just like in Star Wars.

    WHat do they do exactly? An extra 20 MPs due to MMP was hard enough to grasp for most people.

    * Our dollar value will be more than anyone elses.

    There goes our farming based economy & our export dollars.

    * Imagine the money we can inject into academies, education, health, sport anything really.

    Alaska is a removed State of the US. How's that State's academies, education, health, sport anything really?


     
  8. Darth_Graal

    Darth_Graal Jedi Padawan star 4

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    What ever happened to proud to be a kiwi!!
    C'mon sing along.....
    I'm from the land of the long white cloud and I'm proud to be a kiwi

    for a small country with a population a lot less than any major city in the world we have done some fantastic things! New Zealanders have: split the atom, invented the jetboat, become the first to climb everest, won or been place getters in almost every major yachting race in the last 15 years, and succesfully rowed across the atlantic and beaten all the world bigshots!!

     
  9. SithForceLord

    SithForceLord Jedi Master star 6

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    And we've put velcro to good use!




    its now not just for holding things in place when in space. :D
     
  10. Darth_Graal

    Darth_Graal Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Nov 19, 2001
    And you would know lincoln lad!!
     
  11. SithForceLord

    SithForceLord Jedi Master star 6

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    ah, that reminds me to buy some new clippers for "Baa-baa-raa".







    :p
     
  12. Darth_Graal

    Darth_Graal Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Crutching time again, keep getting wool caught in yer zipper? ;)
     
  13. jp-30

    jp-30 Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I [face_love] how it always goes Simpsons or Sheep-Shagging in this forum.

     
  14. Darth_Graal

    Darth_Graal Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Only since SFL started at lincoln JP!
     
  15. SithForceLord

    SithForceLord Jedi Master star 6

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    nice BOLDING there Graal, don't you think JP?

    :D
     
  16. Darth_Graal

    Darth_Graal Jedi Padawan star 4

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    yup I's been practising
     
  17. SWNZ

    SWNZ Jedi Padawan star 4

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    This was not intended to be an April fool discussion although now I wish I had come up with it yesterday. Anyhoo it was intended for proper discussion.

    please continue...
     
  18. jp-30

    jp-30 Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Have you lived in the US SWNZ?

    The country is so big, it's awful - especially things we take for granted. ie. EFTPOS is hard to find. Everyone still pays for everything by cheque.

    Personal Liability insurance to cover you in case you get sued -> You pay a years worth of NZ car insurance every month in the US, and (car) insurance is compulsory.

    Homeless people everywhere. Hospitals turning away people without medical insurance.

    Can't walk on the grass. Can't go into a dairy with bare feet. Can't jaywalk.

    Tipping! 25% of your bill. Or each and every drink you buy at the bar.

    School shootings. Militia groups.

    Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of great things about the USA, but this whole thread is a major case of "grass greener on the other side of the fence".

    Try living in the US, then come back here. Believe me you'll come to appreciate the beauties and lifestyle on New Zealand.



     
  19. SithForceLord

    SithForceLord Jedi Master star 6

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    Amen brother.
     
  20. Darth_Graal

    Darth_Graal Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I'm with JP, being an American holds no attraction!!
    and though our money is worth less than the greenback at least its colourful
     
  21. farmboynz

    farmboynz Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Have to agree with some of the points JP raise
    I too lived in the States for a year
    It was a great and interesting year but would i want to spend the rest of my life as a yank? NO

    For a place that talks about have free it was i found it very restrictive
    like " No Shoes, No Shirt, No Service"
    The number of times i had to go back home to get some shoes because half way to the 7 11 i remembered i was bare foot.
    All i was getting was a drink

    The 25 cents extra you had to pay some one to pour your beer was terrible. It is their job to do it.

    I went swimming at the local pools i was not allowed "by law" to dive in?????
    I was over 20 it is my choice
    I could guess where the deep end was.

    Then the stupid thing in some states it is your choice if you want to wear a helmet on a motorcycle or wear a seat belt. Strange remember you can't dive into the pool.

    They don't have meat pies
    This cause me great concern at every gas station i stopped at while out of the road it took me ages to find something to eat. all i wanted was my meat pie.

    They don't have hokey pokey ice cream never heard of it.

    They think New Zealand is part of Aussie anyway. They don't know or understand that there is another country past Australia, thats if they know where Australia is?

    Once i was at a baseball game i got asked if i was from Boston when i was in Colorado

    they have in the "world" section of the Denver Post an article about Florida

    Going back in Sept to visit which will be great but rather be Canadain
    Get the green card and still be in the commonwealth.

    Also most of their beer is crap
     
  22. ACERIMMERROCKS

    ACERIMMERROCKS Jedi Padawan star 4

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    i dont care cheaper toys more avalible toys better card tournamebnts supplys i dont give a monkeys bottem about the rest of the stuff
     
  23. SithForceLord

    SithForceLord Jedi Master star 6

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    lol

    no pies sucks.

    no lincoln pies in Auckland is bad enough!

    DAMN!
     
  24. Darth_Graal

    Darth_Graal Jedi Padawan star 4

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    well ace at least if we were american no one could hassle you about your spelling
     
  25. SithForceLord

    SithForceLord Jedi Master star 6

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